Meta threads will open federation to the fediverse soon, and while this is mainly to mastodon it will still affect lemmy. They are acting like they won’t be evil, but let’s be real this is Facebook when have they ever done that.

This article which has been trending lately explains some of the issues. https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This comment here is a simple analogy if you can’t be bothered reading the article. https://lemmy.ca/comment/5702922

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  • capital@lemmy.world
    1024·
    7 months ago

    Get over yourself.

    There are tons of well-meaning people on threads who’ve never heard of mastodon, lemmy, or the fediverse.

    • aes@lemm.eeEnglish
      193·
      7 months ago

      Why would anyone join Lemmy/Mastodon if they could join Threads instead for the same content? Normal people don’t care that your shit is FLOSS or decentralised, they just want convenience.

      • capital@lemmy.world
        110·
        7 months ago

        Why would anyone run their own email server if they could just use Gmail instead for the same content?

        Your argument could also be used against the very idea of federation.

        • aes@lemm.eeEnglish
          12·
          7 months ago

          Your argument was that people aren’t using servers that run FLOSS federated software is because they’re not aware of them. My argument is that the people who aren’t aware are also people who wouldn’t use those servers even if they knew.

          The people who run their own mail servers are massive nerds, the people who are on Mastodon are also massive nerds. This status quo won’t change just because a megacorp adopts ActivityPub (in fact, you eloquently bring to attention how everyone uses Gmail or Hotmail, and basically no individual runs their own mail server*). So if that’s your argument, the original commenter’s point still stands.

          *Moreover I’ve heard that because of this monopoly on email, sending email from a mail server you run to the big providers without it immediately getting sent to spam, if delivered at all, is basically impossible.

            • aes@lemm.eeEnglish
              7·
              7 months ago

              Reread my message since my last edit. I’m not arguing that at all; I’m simply saying that if the open source Fediverse wants to appeal to a wider audience, it needs to appeal to the needs and wants of that audience. That’s not the same as merely federating with a closed source instance that already has that appeal.

    • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      And ? Thats still not a reason to federate. I joined the Fediverse years ago to get away from the “well meaning people” dragging us into the pile of shit because they don’t grok that meta/twitter is cancer.

      If they’re that disinterested in why Meta/Bluesky is “cancer” then I’m not really interested in what they have to say on most subjects. Its not elitism, its the same reaosn I am not interested in what members of the Liberal Party have to say on a sinject, sure their is some sanity some times but I don’t want to have to wade through waist deep ship to find it.

    • we is doomed!@lemmy.world
      11·
      4 months ago

      Being “well meaning” and using “a toxic billionare run platform” are incompatable. You can be one …or the other, you can’t be both.

      Ignorance isnt an excuse. Let then stay with their toxicity is all that’s being asked.