I’m out of the loop. Are we federating with Threads or not?

EDIT: The answer is no, we are not federating with Threads. Thank you. That’s the answer I was hoping for.

  • jarfil@beehaw.org
    11·
    7 months ago

    Not sure about ethics, but if the argument of “excessive moderation overhead” still holds true for staying defederated from Lemmy.world, the same should apply a thousandfold for Threads.

    • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgM
      22·
      7 months ago

      yeah i mean this is the veto even if we wanted to do this (which we don’t) and even if the community wanted it (which they clearly don’t seem to–nobody’s clamored for us to federate with Threads). even a tiny fraction of a fraction of threads being involved with our site would probably top the peak of workload we had when Lemmy took off. there is no current realistic circumstance in which we’d ever choose to or be able to federate with them.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      2·
      7 months ago

      You guys are not federated with lemmy.world‽

      Doesn’t that exclude a LOT of content?

      • PaddleMaster@beehaw.org
        13·
        7 months ago

        I have a Beehaw account and another that federates with .world. I enjoy my Beehaw account much more, to the point I almost never use the other account. There’s just much more valuable content here.

        I do miss some of the more niche Reddit subs i frequented before the purge. That’s probably the only thing really lacking. And it probably more a testament to how busy I’ve been this year. I just don’t have the time to explore other instance’s communities that Beehaw does federate with.

        • PenguinCoder@beehaw.orgMEnglish
          10·
          7 months ago

          There is a big difference between a lot of content and quality content. I appreciate Beehaw for our quality, not the quantity. There are certainly some great content on other instances, but sorting through the crap noise to find the good, just isn’t worth my effort.

          • PaddleMaster@beehaw.org
            7·
            7 months ago

            Reddit is so hostile to women that I never felt comfortable posting anything. I was a lurker. It took me 3 years to make an account, just so I could sub to places and not forget they existed. But in all my years on Reddit, I never posted. I saw how women would get roasted and never felt like part of that community. I would report many comments that were hateful towards women just for the report to come back and say “sorry, nothing wrong here”.

            I went back to look up something and it just seems like a cesspool of bots. The front page is nothing but stupid questions that I’ve seen asked more than I can count, memes, screenshots of texts and AITA with the most outrageous scenarios and answers. And guess what, I still see the same hostility towards women. It’s hard to feel welcome and participate with a culture like that.

            Way back in the day, Reddit was a place people would argue something to death. If you disagreed with the hive mind, you were shunned. And don’t even think about making a spelling or grammar mistake, you’d get blasted for that too. And every so often, someone would post something compelling, and Reddit would collectively hold that opinion as truth.

            I left facebook in 2016, and Reddit feels a lot like facebook was when I left. And now it’s time to move away from Reddit; at least for me.

          • anothermember@beehaw.org
            7·
            7 months ago

            You’re not the first person I’ve heard who said that so there must be something there. That’s not my experience however, I find that Reddit makes me angry these days, getting annoyed at all the low-effort, inconsiderate posting. Having a debate on Reddit is impossible I find because saying something that goes slightly against the hive-mind you’ll you’ll be passive-aggressively downvoted, which has a chilling effect on what people say. I like that Beehaw doesn’t have downvotes, especially on local communities. On Beehaw/Lemmy someone might argue with you but that’s at least better I think than the knee-jerk downvote-to-oblivion you get on Reddit.

            It’s true that a lot of people are more similar here than on Reddit. I’d argue that’s not necessarily a bad thing. The one-size-fits-all social network for everybody approach I think doesn’t work, it’s more natural to choose a group you fit in to and feel comfortable with (which is how things were on old style forums and message boards). What ever happens to Lemmy/Beehaw in the future, the main thing I hope for is to have plenty of choice of smaller forums which is what’s been lacking in the last decade or so.

            • bermuda@beehaw.orgEnglish
              3·
              7 months ago

              I’ve been experiencing more argumentation from non-beehaw users. I think they treat our communities (Politics, LGBTQ, News, etc.) as defaults and they don’t realize that they’re on beehaw. I’ve reminded people of the rules before and had responses telling me they didn’t realize they had posted on beehaw.

              • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.orgM
                1·
                7 months ago

                Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of federation. Without better mod tools for now we just ask that it report anyone who’s not being nice and we’ll do our best to manage it.

          • gt5@beehaw.org
            5·
            7 months ago

            I was on Reddit for a very long time and a few Lemmy instances when everyone moved. While it’s not perfect, Beehaw is by far the place where I can read comments that are original, less hateful, and less pedantic. I chose Behhaw because everything else is just exhausting to me

              • jarfil@beehaw.org
                2·
                7 months ago

                Pirate Bay is not representative of the pirating scene, it only has the “tip of the iceberg” most popular stuff, and even then missing a lot of it. For a better view, check BTDigg… but even that is missing data from all the private trackers where more dedicated people are keeping the more obscure stuff, not to mention the not-torrent networks, which is where most of the scene is. Then you have private datahoarders who keep their stash off-line, but can make a copy available if you ask nicely.

                You could probably find any game ever published, even multiple version releases, if you contacted the right people.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          2·
          7 months ago

          Hard to name anything specific, it’s just that most of the content I see scrolling through the feed is from lemmy.world communites or users.