As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap::As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    20·
    1 year ago

    Incompatibility with what? Things are only just starting to be incompatible with Windows 7. I’ve still got customers running variants of Windows XP.

    And Windows 11 doesn’t really contain much that won’t work on 10.

    I reckon the TPM and secure boot requirements will eventually be dropped. They’re the Kinect of Windows 11.

    • hamid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      You’re probably not correct about TPM and secure boot being dropped. Microsoft’s entire enterprise line of security products including Intune and Defender for Endpoint are integrated to it and Microsoft Azure AD/Entra ID uses it for their certificate based enrollment and authentication. This is their primary profit drivers, not consumers.

      • Rednax@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Disabling the tpm requirement is just a registry hack in win 10, or a selectable option when creating an install usb with rufus.

        I think they will make a simple calculation; What is going to cost more: The bad PR of nolonger updating 240 million pc’s, or accepting that a small portion of your users does not have tpm?

        They haven’t stopped advanced users from installing win11 on older hardware so far. So no loss there. I also doubt they lose enterprise money if they allow win10 to upgrade regardless, as tpm is now well entrenched as the default on new hardware.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      I’m still not even sure why they decided to require TPM anyways. But yeah my computer is among the many that can’t upgrade until that’s gone. I guess it’s either that or I learn a lot more about Linux…

      • jdaxe@infosec.pubEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        At least if you switch to Linux there’s no shortage of people on the fediverse willing to answer questions.

        • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          1 year ago

          There should be a “Linux hotline” community where people can post whatever is stopping them from switching and get solutions

          • DarthBueller@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            1 year ago

            Elsewhere, Linux support areas seem more likely than not to have a large contingent of “WHY ARE YOU ASKING A DUMB QUESTION, you horror of a human being? Why didn’t you Search the site for words you don’t know using our broken search engine, instead of infecting us with your congenital idiocy?” folks.

            • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              1 year ago

              exactly, I admit to sharing some of the “bro its so easy” attitude, but that should result in simple answers instead of berating, like a “no stupid questions” but for linux thing

              • Pazuzu@midwest.socialEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                A “no stupid questions” for Linux would be super helpful. A big one for me is shell commands. Like are shell commands different between distros, or do I have to install something to have certain commands? How do I even know what commands I do have?

                • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  Like are shell commands different between distros, or do I have to install something to have certain commands?

                  Yes and no, kinda. So the most popular shell by far is Bash, which includes its own built in functions, and can also be extended with custom functions which certain distros may include in your bash config file by default. But generally, Bash and the GNU coreutils are standard, although some more “hip” distros will include other shell prompts such as zsh or fish by default, but even those tend to come with bash for script compatibility or easy switching for user preference. Some distros may include programs by default, but most of the time those are easily available in other distros through the package manager.

                  How do I even know what commands I do have?

                  compgen -c (or compgen -c | more for a scrollable list (press q to exit)) should do the trick, but that is a built-in bash command that may not be available on other shells, but generally you can find all the programs able to be called from shell inside the

                  /bin

                  /sbin

                  /usr/bin

                  and

                  /usr/sbin

                  directories. All these directories are added to a variable called $PATH, and when you type a command into your shell, these are the places that get searched for a matching program to run. You can use echo $PATH to see all the directories on your machine which are searched, or even add your own directory containing custom scripts or utilities so you can use them anywhere like an installed program.

      • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Going the linux way can be troublesome at first, but you will be free from ms bullshit in the long run and will have your hardware lasting much longer. Unless you need something specific to windows for work, I recommend trying linux.