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  • Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml
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    CIA is behind drug trafficking from Latin America to the US, and they use the money as an untraceable fund for their most covert operations. Edit: I was wrong and it is well confirmed that this happens

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      Oswald def worked for the CIA, Dulles was an evil guy certainky capable of it, then he led the investigation and large amounts of documents either went missing or were “accidentally” destroyed

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        She was a threat to the status qou of the monarchy, as she was brazenly becoming the face of the royal family with soaring public appeal, completely overshadowing the Queen. She had also deeply embarrassed the entire royal family with her justified divorce from her ghoul of a husband, along with her affair with a “common person”.

        In essence, she became an annoyance and a threat. It was for everyone’s benefit in the royal family and British government that she be quietly swept aside.

  • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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    No state level actor would tell us about a future extinction event (asteroid, solar flare, volcano eruption, etc) , because it would cause too much panic.

  • Camarada Forte@lemmygrad.mlM
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    COVID was lab-produced by the United States and the Pentagon. The US has historically used bioweapons both through wars (Korean War) and covertly (Cuba dengue epidemic) [those are just two examples].

    In its desperate drive to compete against a fast rising China, the United States (DoS + Pentagon + CIA) preferred to sabotage world economy and hurt the two countries through a global pandemic than to let China outlast them very quickly. They could be seeking for more time to react to the rise of China.

    The Foreign Ministry of China called in 2021 for investigations in the United States biological weapon facility Fort Detrick and the University of North Carolina, to which the United States never gave a response.

    From January to August 2019, a few months before the pandemic, the United States ran a joint exercise called Crimson Contagion to test the capacity of the federal government to respond to a pandemic from China. It described the virus as a “respiratory virus [that] began in China”. The Times of Israel reported that the CIA alerted Israeli and NATO officials of a pandemic in China in November 2019, a month before China fist detected the virus and sent the information to the WHO (end of December 2019).

    • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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      I personally like it because it has a sick twisted irony to it. America, once again killed millions, but mostly their allies and their own citizens, while the enemy nations took it pretty well.

      • TarkovSurvivor@lemmygrad.ml
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        the people running crackerland don’t care about their citizens and China hate is up multiple times, they probably see it as a win nonetheless.

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        It has “culled”, if you’ll excuse the term, the proletariat. Who were the main victims? Those who couldn’t afford medical aid or even a sick leave. Meanwhile, the geriatrics in charge somehow get healed easy peasy

    • Lemmy_Mouse@lemmygrad.ml
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      Not to mention the biolabs in Ukraine and going all the way back to SARS and the native genocide. Very likely

    • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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      My main issue with this is that COVID hurt the west much more than it did China and surely US officials would have known that would happen, right? I don’t doubt that they’re depraved enough to have developed undisclosed biological weapons tho.

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        The US doesn’t seem to accurately anticipate blowback in their schemes, I don’t see why Covid would be any different. Take the “current situation” for example, they thought sanctions would cripple Russia and oust Putin and they have done neither. As well the sanctions clearly backfired on the EU and US.

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      Depends. I don’t believe that an intelligence agency did it or that it was staged with explosives or something like that. But I 100% believe that intelligence agencies knew it would happen but didn’t stop it to capatlise on the aftermath.

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        This is an article from shortly after Osama Bin Laden was killed.

        The official story is that the Navy Seal team took the body somewhere in Afghanistan where it could be positively identified. Then, while on board an aircraft carrier, Bin Laden was given a Muslim funeral and his body thrown into the ocean.

        The Pentagon claims that this was done in order to respect Muslim tradition and because they did not want the body to be buried somewhere on land where other extremists would be able to build a temple.

        There are multiple reasons why the body can be considered of value. For example, interested parties might need very hard evidence of Bin Laden’s dead, with a ‘trusted’ test result made abroad not being enough. And also because of the body’s historical value and its value as a collectible (as bad as that sounds).

        So, if the US is faced with two options:

        (1) Bury the body at sea

        (2) Lie about burying the body at sea

        Option (2) would give them every benefit of (1), but they keep the body and its associated value. Since there is no possible way to disprove the claim of a body being thrown into the ocean, other than finding the body and identifying it, it is quite an easy lie.

        The conspiracy theory is that those in charge of making this kind of decisions in the US would chose to lie in situations where it will optimize the outcome, and that they have done this in this case.

        As a ‘conspiracy’, it is part of the larger topic of trusting the government and those in power. Will those in power tell the truth when an unfalsifiable lie will lead to a better outcome?

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        There’s several ones about bin Laden death, probably the one linked to another one, that Osama never stopped being CIA agent (this i could believe as in topic) and they killed him much earlier to quiet him, then used the chase for dead man as excuse to do more imperialism.

        • SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml
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          Just reminded me of William Blum’s “Rogue State”. Osama bin Laden said that all Amerikans should read it to understand the terrifying gravity of their Amerikan empire. When questioned about bin Laden’s support for his book, Blum said

          “I was quite surprised and even shocked and amused when I found out what he’d said,” Blum commented. “I was glad. I knew it would help the book’s sales and I was not bothered by who it was coming from. If he shares with me a deep dislike for certain aspects of US foreign policy, then I’m not going to spurn any endorsement of the book by him. I think it’s good that he shares those views and I’m not turned off by that.” On the Bin Laden endorsement, Blum stated, “This is almost as good as being an Oprah book.” In an interview on MSNBC Countdown, he said: “Basically it’s US foreign policy which creates anti-American terrorists. It’s the things we do to the world. It’s not, as the White House tells us, that they hate our freedom and democracy. That’s just propaganda.”

          (I also heavily recommend the book, although as an Amerikan who already knew that the empire was run by… evil, evil people - so vile and depraved that I can’t help but return to idealistic moralism when I think of them - my brain was sort of shattered after reading it. The barbarism of the Amerikan state far surpasses any historical or contemporary villain, from the Spartans to the Nazis. Maybe even cumulatively from then to now. If every Amerikan could get their hands on this book and actually read it, the empire would collapse tomorrow. I’m convinced.)

  • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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    Ever since the History channel only showed bullshit and create a more superstitious audience I really do believe promoting superstitions and expanding folk cults around crypthid, ghost, psychic, and promoting worldviews of supernatural over the natural prevents people from understanding the world and isolating them from the levers of power. Believing in impossibly strong governments and impossible to understand enemies leaves the working class dis-empowered and afraid. This effectively creates mass psychosis among the populous. Spree shooters are reacting to their loss of privilege and how they are misinformed that an individual with a gun killing people can somehow liberate the world from some impossible enemy. Actual gun violence only reinforces the horror and encourages people to disengage from knowing what is going on.

    I suspect the US government is funding or subsidizing this psyop, but it could very well be the institutions of capitalism finding a way to scare people as a marketing ploy. But why would the government not try to make a profitable market to consolidate their power? It’s self funding!

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      Promotion of superstition to protect the ruling class by dividing and diverting the working class is the oldest social engineering existing. Usually religion served in that role (and they still do for huge majority), but XX century seen unprecedented before decline in religiousness and rise in materialism, so the ruling class needed to cook off the new kinds of superstition and promote it hard, that’s why we have so many wacky cults and pseudo-scientific nonsense and this isn’t only for the ignorant masses, i mean just read anything by Dawkins, the guy have a point about traditional religions but his books just ooze spiritual unfulfillment and he’s projecting it over science.

      it is as comrade @[email protected] said, an organized attack on the philosophical basis of marxism. And coupled with liberal encroaching with vulgar materialism in hand and resurgence of religion in socialist circles, a very, very successful one.