Are there games that you tried but just couldn’t get into because they feel outdated? Games that, in theory, you would enjoy, but don’t because the controls, graphics, writing, or mechanics just don’t feel good anymore. Games that, compared to today, just don’t hold up to your standards.

I recently tried playing Heroes of Might and Magic III, and I realized that a lot of the invisible language used through game design from that era, I do not understand. There are many things that the game didn’t explain, and I assume they were just understood by players. Not only that, but I imagine there was a lot of crossover between video games and board games back then, so maybe that language was used as well. I ended up downloading a manual and putting it on my second screen and I get it and played it, but it just wasn’t for me.

I also dropped Mirror’s Edge, but this time it was because of the graphics. It looks and feels great, but the graphics give me a headache. There is way too much bloom, and for some reason, there are some parts that look like the imaginary lens has been covered in Vaseline. This didn’t bother me before, but my eyes are not used to it anymore.

There are also games like the first two Tony Hawk Pro Skater games that I can’t fully get into because they’re missing mechanics from the later games. The levels and controls feel great, but they don’t feel complete without those mechanics. It keeps me from enjoying the games as much as the others.

Please share yours!

  • timo_timboo@lemmy.world
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    Pokémon, actually. Just a month ago I wanted to play Soul Silver. But man, it is tedious. There’s so much slow dialog, long animations, and little inconveniences everywhere (even in the menus). And I feel like you also have to grind to progress, which I absolutely hate in games (but maybe I also just didn’t play well enough, whatever). So yeah, quite disappointed with it since I remember the 3DS games being quite fun.

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      I think this is a greater problem with games that are technically aimed at children. There is so little respect for your time generally, but I think it’s especially egregious when it comes to menus, dialog, and animations. Additionally, there are many things that are in sequence (with large unneeded gaps between) that could happen more or less simultaneously.

      Conspiratorially, I think this is to pad play time, and for kids the animations and what not are jingling keys that keep then occupied enough they don’t care or notice.

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        I was just thinking this exact same thing… but about Red Dead Redemption 2. I had to stop playing it because it had no respect for my time.

        I’m used to driving to places to start a mission like in all the other GTA games, but in RDR2, it would be about 10 minutes of riding a horse before the real mission started.

        The animations take way too long sometimes, and cutscenes and a lot of dialogue are unnecessary and feel like padding. Those 1-2 second animations add up when it’s a 50+hr game

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          I really enjoyed those tbh. One of my favourite things to do in RDR2 is just riding around and enjoying the scenery, or chilling in Saint-Denis at night time. Gaming time is chill time. There’s no rush to finish a story.

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            Yeah, I was going to say the same. RDR2 is one of those weird games where I’m okay with wasting time. Because the entire game is so fucking scenic that I can just wander around doing whatever catches my eye. The mission pacing in the beginning of the game could benefit from some tweaking, (the snowy sections are just so slow,) but the rest of the game feels like a nice scenic drive; Even if you have an eventual destination, you’re just enjoying the journey.

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          I was very disappointed that one of the animations they didn’t bother with was shaving and hair cuts. I wanted to see that.

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      The new games are still the same way.

      Quit holding my fucking hand and let me play the damn game already.

      “This is a Pokémon and this is how you battle…”

      Motherfucker, I’ve been playing these games since I was 7.

      It took me so long to keep sticking with Sword and I just couldn’t. I just wanted to hop into the world and catch some Pokémon, battle, and discover the world.

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        I haven’t played since ORAS, but I think they’ll always have those tutorials cause they’re targeted at kids. Like I was playing the original at 10 and now my kids starting to get into Pokémon at 6.

        I feel like they should allow an “adult” version though. Like no hand holding and harder.

        It’s wild how little the most financially successful franchise of all time has innovated.

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          Oh yeah most definitely. Not even just for kids, but I’m sure there are adults who are just getting into the games too and need a tutorial.

          I just am sick of forced tutorials where you can’t skip them and they want you to know the story and no way to skip all the dialogue that most seasoned players already know. It seems like every Pokémon game does this and is one of the worst offenders of this.

          By all means, do continue to make tutorials and incorporate the story elements, but make them skippable if the player so desires.

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          I’ve always wanted there to be an option when you start a new Pokemon game that just lets you say “I’ve played Pokemon before let me get into it”, it really is a pain in the ass as an adult.

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        The games really need an option to just turn off tutorials. I imagine it’s a little bit trickier than that because they need to be designed in a way a small child won’t accidentally turn it on without realizing. But there must be a way to do it.

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          Civilization has settings buried in the menu like

          New to Civilization (default)

          New to Civilization VI

          New to Civilization [Expansion 1]

          New to Civilization [Expansion 2]

          Disabled

          Something like these options could go a long way -

          New to Pokémon (all tutorials)

          New to Pokémon on [Console] (tutorials specific to controls on that console)

          New to Pokémon [Generation] (tutorials specific to new mechanics in that generation)

          Disabled (no tutorials)

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      Pokemon is better with game shark style cheats. It’s way more fun to have the option to get 100x more xp, and force Pokemon to appear rather than grind a 1% appearance rate. Pokémon even made TMs reusable eventually, but you need cheats for that in the early games.

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        Or just a speedup button! Red and Blue are some of my favorite games ever, but I haven’t played them without a speedup button in like 20 years.

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        Hm I’ll think about it. Seems like this is really the way to go. I was playing on a modded DSi though, so I will probably have to switch to an emulator to use these kinds of cheats. Still, sounds like a good idea.

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        This is the way. I stopped playing the originals after X/Y, but some ROM hacks and fan games are so much fun.

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        Also, switch from “Shift” to “Set”.

        Shift is little kids’ mode. Set is normal mode. Too bad it’s set to easy by default

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          Although the original commenter’s mileage may vary considering they complained about too much grinding, so I don’t think their issue is with the game being too easy.

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          I always thought about the differences of these 2 modes, but never tried it out. What exactly does it change?

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            You know how in default when you are in a battle and knock out an opponent’s pokemon, it tells you what they’re going to put out next and asks you if you’d like to switch pokemon? That’s ‘switch’ mode, in ‘set’ mode you aren’t asked that and have to use a turn to switch pokemon if you’re at a type disadvantage, meaning they get a turn of damage or set up. Really makes you think about strategy a lot more, and is integral to challenge runs like nuzlockes.

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            In “set” mode, the game doesn’t ask you if you want to switch every time an opposing trainer sends out a new pokemon.