Thank you, federation, for bringing libs to our lair once again.

They really always default to the same fucking shit “BOT! XINNIE THE POOH!” like an actual NPC che-laugh

  • VILenin [he/him]@hexbear.netMEnglish
    48·
    1 year ago

    Liberals can’t help but repeat 200 year old debunked talking points like a broken record player, as if it will make sense this time

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      1 year ago

      As is well known, Lassalle heard nothing of the “iron law of wages” other than the word “iron” borrowed from Goethe’s “eternal, iron, great laws”. The word brazen is a signature by which the true believers recognize themselves. But if I take the law with Lassalle’s stamp and therefore in his sense, then I must also take it with his justification. And what is she? As Lange showed shortly after Lassalle’s death: the Malthusian theory of population (preached by Lange himself). But if this is correct, then again I cannot abolish the law, even if I abolish wage labor a hundred times, because the law then governs not only the system of wage labor but every social system. Precisely based on this, the economists have been proving for fifty years and more that socialism cannot abolish natural misery, but only generalize it and spread it over the entire surface of society at the same time!

      • K. Marx, 1875 (Critique of the Gotha Program - Google translated from German/mlwerke.de, I CBA to look up the quote in English)

      They’re using the same arguments as 150 years ago, yes.

      • IceWallowCum [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        It’s incredible how Marx was already dunking on the same arguments we see TODAY, everywhere.

        Somewhere in Grundrisse, he criticizes an American economist that argues that the state is wheighing down the american economy and that it should be abolished for the market to be free. The quotes felt like someone slipped reddit comments into the pages.

        (Btw, Marx explains that the American state is itself the result of the self organization of free market forces, unlike in European countries, in which captalists had to deal with the feudal institutions that preceded them, so the american’s argument made zero sense then and still makes zero sense now)