The CIA installed a religious zealot dictator… idk why you’re being downvoted lol. Let’s all just pretend the CIA hasn’t been fucking up democratically elected governments for almost a century
Because 40 years have passed without direct intervention in their government and they’re just as bad. Will you still blame the west for Iranian oppression in 50 years? 80? 100?
It depends! Obviously the US isn’t entirely at fault. After our shenanigans there was like permanent war in the region (also mostly the US) which never helps. The destabilizing effects are still present and can be traced back to the US in no small part.
Slavery was outlawed over 100 years ago in the US yet we are still dealing with the ramifications. Stuff doesn’t just happen in a vacuum
edit: I should also note the US propped up a dictator who was corrupt and overthrown by religious zealots. They have been ruled by extremists ever since. It seems like a direct connection to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All I know is that at some point, it goes from a valid criticism to a way to attack the US without giving ANY agency to the bad actors in Iran who have been far worse than the shah. Many many Iranians in Iran at this point consider the US and Israel allies in opposition. Downvote me straight to hell but it’s a fact.
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It’s amazing watching the contortionist path you people take to blame every damn problem on the planet on “the west”.
I thought I was being obvious, but that was highly sarcastic.
I think it mirrors actual view points in most communist communities.
I think the OP was being facetious
Meh, the /s is very much a real person here on lemmy. If that’s /s I don’t think they’ve seen the hardliner commies on here.
It is not always the West, but in Iran’s case, it most definitely is the West…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
The CIA installed a religious zealot dictator… idk why you’re being downvoted lol. Let’s all just pretend the CIA hasn’t been fucking up democratically elected governments for almost a century
Because 40 years have passed without direct intervention in their government and they’re just as bad. Will you still blame the west for Iranian oppression in 50 years? 80? 100?
It depends! Obviously the US isn’t entirely at fault. After our shenanigans there was like permanent war in the region (also mostly the US) which never helps. The destabilizing effects are still present and can be traced back to the US in no small part.
Slavery was outlawed over 100 years ago in the US yet we are still dealing with the ramifications. Stuff doesn’t just happen in a vacuum
edit: I should also note the US propped up a dictator who was corrupt and overthrown by religious zealots. They have been ruled by extremists ever since. It seems like a direct connection to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All I know is that at some point, it goes from a valid criticism to a way to attack the US without giving ANY agency to the bad actors in Iran who have been far worse than the shah. Many many Iranians in Iran at this point consider the US and Israel allies in opposition. Downvote me straight to hell but it’s a fact.
No I agree with you, but I also think the actions of the USA are not exactly irrelevant
Oh! So after forty years, it’s still the west’s fault? How many decades pass before a culture gets to own its own shitty behaviour?
mmh, so the shitty /s thing makes sense after all… fuck the /s btw
You’re going to need to type in something that more closely resembles a complete sentence.
lol