Updated - programming.dev defederation on hold - Blåhaj Lemmy
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Update: In light of the programming.dev update here https://programming.dev/post/8399272 [https://programming.dev/post/8399272], the defederation is no longer going ahead. However, something more needs to be said. Even here on Blahaj, some of our users took issue with the choice to defederate over this issue. So I would like to give some background and context. Blahaj Zone exists, because both Kaity and I left mainstream social media to escape transphobia. Reddit, with its lackluster approach to fighting transphobia, and twitter, with its outright celebration of transphobia pushed us here, to the fediverse, and to create Blahaj Zone and Blahaj Lemmy. To that end, we will continue to treat transphobia seriously. Our goal is to create a space where gender diverse folk can exist and let our defenses down a little, where we don’t have to worry about getting dragged in to an argument with a transphobe, or a bad faith actor “just asking questions”. If you are looking for a more reddit like experience, where in the interest of increased engagement, we let low level transphobia slide, and push responsibility for dealing with it on to community mods and individual users, then you will likely not be happy with blahaj going forward. If you choose to stay here, understand that we may defederate again in the future over similar issues. The choice is yours. ====== It has recently been brought to my attention that the lead admin of programming.dev is engaging in ongoing transphobia. You can see the conversation in question here https://programming.dev/comment/6131539 [https://programming.dev/comment/6131539] For that reason we will be defederating from programming.dev in 48 hours. There are only three communities on that instance used by small number of our users, so this won’t have a big impact, but if you are one of those users, you will need to use an alt account on another instance if you wish to access the communities.

The admin banned people for saying that calling everything transpobia isn’t the way to make you seem reasonable and all non blahaj TLC get removed by default.

  • syd@lemy.lol
    292·
    10 months ago

    Nah their admin is drama queen. Unfortunately being trans doesn’t makes your decisions automatically right and everyone else transphobic.

    I’m not talking about this particular case and I think their defederation from Lemmy NSFW was also stupid.

    • sab@kbin.social
      221·
      10 months ago

      The nice thing about the Fediverse is that people can go forum shopping. Blåhaj is an instance that chooses to defederate too much rather than too little, making sure to create a safe space even if this safe space is smaller. That’s between them and their users. As long as there are users who appreciate this approach to moderation, it’s good for the Fediverse that such an instance exists.

    • PugJesus@kbin.social
      52·
      10 months ago

      I’m not talking about this particular case and I think their defederation from Lemmy NSFW was also stupid.

      … wasn’t that over loli/shota stuff?

    • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
      107·
      10 months ago

      Got banned for saying that you cant call everything transpobia and shut people up with that.

  • Kayn@dormi.zone
    273·
    10 months ago

    I don’t think post titles in this community should include personal bias.

    “lemmy.blahaj.zone admin announces defederation from programming.dev because of controversial comments made by their admin” would have been better and much more factual.

    • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
      74·
      10 months ago

      “controversial comments” my ass. Its a textbook powertripp over a very minor issue

      • Kayn@dormi.zone
        101·
        10 months ago

        Cambridge Dictionary defines “controversial” as “causing disagreement or discussion”. The admin’s comments did just that, so objectively speaking they are controversial.

        • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
          21·
          10 months ago

          Is helping sick babies controversial? I bet I could find someone who thinks we shouldn’t help sick babies.

        • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
          34·
          10 months ago

          The only people finding it worth arguing are hexbears and that admin, its not controversial its bs.

          • Kayn@dormi.zone
            141·
            10 months ago

            That’s your opinion, which I’m saying should be excluded from the post title.

            • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
              38·
              10 months ago

              Its not a opinion, the stuff you wrote makes it seem like the blahaj admin has a case or anything besides a powertripp about a game.

              • Kichae@lemmy.ca
                93·
                10 months ago

                Their cause is “their website, their rules”. They really don’t need to justify what other independent websites they share content with.

                • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
                  22·
                  10 months ago

                  That’s pretty idiotic in case of a federated service. you can just close registration and delete the user database so nobody can do anything “anti trans” on your instance if you act like a child on such hilariously small issues.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
    202·
    10 months ago

    I kinda thought the ‘cissie’ name-calling was a little obstructive to proper conversation. I get that some people are really offended by the ‘cis’ name, and I’m not sure the writer didn’t choose that jeer intentionally because of that.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
    192·
    10 months ago

    Looking at the comment thread and seeing that it’s all hexbear users makes me think whatever he said was justified.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
      81·
      10 months ago

      Kind of fucked up reasoning, but you’re not wrong, it was pretty harmless, but the point of blahaj is specifically to be a trans space, no matter how small that ends up being so…

      Good luck, I guess.

      • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        It’s perfectly fine to have ultra safe spaces, but I do wonder why they’re then putting them on the Fediverse.

      • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
        31·
        10 months ago

        I mean there are literally people in the thread saying they outright leave blahaj for this shit and it’s 100% justified.

    • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
      92·
      10 months ago

      He didn’t even say anything bad or transpobic, just played a game and made a post that ot won a award…

      • asymmetric@lemmy.ca
        51·
        10 months ago

        Admin sees an anime illustration: “Oh my god this is child porn. DEFEDERATE DEFEDERATE!”

        • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
          51·
          10 months ago

          Basically. I understand that if we speak about burggit but man ani.social has a 0 tolerance rule for legal reasons.

      • spiderman@ani.socialEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        yeah that sucks honestly since i never seen anything remotely related to reason they provided for the defederation

        • CJOtheReal@ani.socialOP
          41·
          10 months ago

          Eh its a masked tankie instance, i used a app ever since to block the instance among hexbear and lemmygrad still completely made up shitshow reason

          Only reason im mad is because they took the instance from join-lemmy.org what a disgrace to humanity they are…