• averagedrunk@lemmy.ml
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      I’ll be out of debt by the end of this year. I’ll outright own everything that I’ve been calling mine. So given my luck this will happen just after I pay off everything.

      And I’ll still celebrate for the same reason I’d celebrate if everyone’s student loans in the US were forgiven even though I paid mine off a while ago. Because it’s the best thing for all of us.

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        11 months ago

        If you own a home, do you really own it? Try not paying your property taxes for a bit.

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          Ownership of land is a bullshit concept anyway. The first person to claim it stole it from the commons, and everyone since then has just been pretending it’s not stolen.

          Or to quote Rousseau:

          The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows, "Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.

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        But a reset of a faulty system gives times to re-evaluate and makes it at least work again. Temporarily.

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            11 months ago

            I didn’t say “that’s the solution”, but a temporary band-aid to ponder about bettering things.

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              11 months ago

              I hate to say it, but a large number of people are ignorant, or even downright simple enough to be completely satisfied with the bandaid and will stop desiring positive change - leading to the exact same events playing out over again

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        11 months ago

        It would seem logical, that the adaption of that concept to modern times, would also require technical terrorism. Not just physical. And a wider spread. An effort most likely not being possible at all…

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            11 months ago

            Depending on the country, that could end worse, could it not? Try that in china. Try that in the USA. In some it might work, but wouldn’t change anything because we aren’t local anymore.

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              11 months ago

              yeah the rebellion needs to be global. but it depends on the ones with access to weapons to also rebel. but imho terrorism only makes things worse.

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                Usually. And also totally unrealistic on a global scale. Look how futile it usually is locally. Only digitally it could lead to something. But that’s also basically impossible.

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        11 months ago

        Tyler Durden was on the right track, but Elliot Alderson took it much further. We’d need both to do it right.