• jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.orgOP
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    More and more working class people have stopped falling for the false narrative of the lesser evil spiel.

    We will proudly vote our conscious, 3rd party, doesn’t matter if swing state or not.

    The bloods and crips will have to get better at convincing people to vote for them just cause less evil.

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      Goodness, I hope proudly voting third party will salve your conscience when LGBT people are sent to concentration camps.

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        Scare mongering will not help.

        We need to stop dividing ourselves by culture and identity politics.

        We shall be stronger when we fight the class war that is going on.

        Working class vs. the wealthy is the real problem.

        Thanks for your input.

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          Everything is a conspiracy until it is proven it is not.

          Look at the military leaks and you will learn more on what was a conspiracy.

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        IME the far left (once you get to the “China is a perfect communist utopia” part) are as bad as the far right. They’ve got this puritanical fervor on both sides where I’m pretty sure genocide is part of the strategy.

        They’re both intolerable and intolerant people.

        But the difference is in the parties. The far right controls the entire Republican Party, and the far left are treated like the insane people they are in the Democratic Party.

        It literally is a party of insane people doing insanely awful things, or a flawed group of people trying to do the best they can for everyone. And morons like this guy are trying to make them look the same.

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          If you’re as “far left” that you support dictators and don’t even like democracy then you’re not left in my opinion.

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            I mean, if you imagine left and right more of as a circle that connects, it all makes a lot more sense. The center of the line becomes the top of the circle that gets more extreme until you have fascists and authoritarian communists sitting next to each other, hating each other, but also looking mostly indistinguishable to anyone further up the circle.

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              Unironic horseshoe-theory argument as if that shit isn’t laughable on its face and gets regularly refuted. Fascism was not and is not opposed by centrist liberals. It’s opposed by leftists.

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          Name calling… thanks that helps…

          To the working class they do look the same, crumbs for plebs to keep us fighting and the wealthy keep on doing what they do.

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            They don’t look the same at all to the working class, and the fact that you’d even suggest that makes me think you’re not being serious and this is just some Russian troll account.

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        Am LGBT, am not a reliable Biden voter. I think I’m pretty privileged- and in a lot of ways my “LGBT status” has been a privilege.

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        We are all privileged, not sure how trying to out victim someone helps.

        Minorities are always targeted.

        Working class struggle is the focus to get more peopke to join and not divide us, status quo voting will not help.

        Long term vs short term solutions.

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      Lol this guy thinking either party is gonna notice and strive for his attention. You need to be a popular movement to matter.

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        Where do you think the Bernie/AOC supporters are going? They are slowly leaving the crips gang and not going back.

        Look at on the ground activists and see what they say.

        Older people are blue not matter what but not the younger generations.

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          Lol as a Bernie supporter that knows several Bernie supporters. We like the Democrats. They are objectively doing a good job considering their lack of a majority. Bernie an AOC wouldn’t be getting much different done anyway. The biggest fault of the democratics is they don’t go far enough but they are stillaling progress.

          Perfect shouldn’t be the enemy of good. Especially when fascists will absolutely destroy the country

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            I also know working class Bernie supporters who are done with the crips.

            Slowly moving away from the two party system, it will take time.

            Lemmy was not built in a day.

            Fascists are not stopped by lying about how great Biden is doing and the reality of the working class struggle.

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              The system is cemented into 2 parties. Thrown away votes just enable a worse outcome. You can’t wish more parties into the current system. Also think about it. If we had more than 2 trump would have 100% got re elected.

              Bidens doing good. We got out of Afghanistan. He’s helping Ukraine. The inflation act was a great win forcing a minimum tax on massive corporations. He did all he could on student debt and minimum wage. The infrastructure bill was a win. He wouldn’t sell offensive weapons to the Saudis

              Bernie would have gotten the same amount done. Dems never had a hold of the Senate.

              Biden is literally the most left president we’ve had in modern history. That in itself is sending a signal. You’re competing with a 100 million people. Getting as left as Biden is solid progress and the only realistic route to further progress.

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                I guess more and more of us will keep throwing away our vote for the long term and not the short term.

                You sound like a democrat apologist with those talking points.

                Biden is not the leftist president, he is a republican in the blue team.

                Student debt was possible, you need to learn the proper way it should have been done, and stop believing what politicians tell you.