• AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world
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    White House national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters on Thursday that the United States sees no basis for South Africa’s allegation of genocide against Israel over civilian deaths in Gaza.

    We’re the bad guys… I’m so embarrassed.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      What the fuck does Israel have on America, that America bends over so eagerly with greasy asshole for them?!

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        A strategic geographic placement to expend its influence in both the Middle East and the Mediterranean sea.

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        Israel spent a lot of time and money buying influence in the US government. Netanyahu has been working for literal decades to create this level of support.

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          If you’re gonna keep throwing that word around, you really ought to define it.

          As it stands, calling the Korean War, or more specifically the American bombings during it, genocide is ill informed at best. While the US did have a substantial role, so did China and Russia. This included boots on the ground and pilots in the air. It is true that ~2 million civilians were killed in the war though, and casualties were split roughly even between both sides of the conflict.

          I would venture to say that the Korean War was no more a genocide than the American Civil war was.

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            Wrong. The responsibility is entirely on the United states and its lackeys. The United States made it their goal to prevent Korea from governing itself, installed a fascist military dictatorship, and destroyed the independent portion of the country killing millions. In no way are china and the USSR who supported the independent Korean state responsible for the death caused by the United States.

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              Wtf are you talking about? China and the USSR supported North Korea, which if you recall, was the aggressor in the Korean War. They invaded the RoK.

              As for America’s involvement, it was hardly them acting unilaterally. It wasn’t even them and a small coalition of their allies like Vietnam was. The UN Security Council voted to approve the action. You could criticise the US for their involvement in almost any war they were involved with post-WW2, but not Korea. (Criticising their tactics is one thing, and fair. But not the mere fact that they were involved.)

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                The DPRK is korea. South Korea is a US vassal state ruled by a fascist installed military dictatorshop. The DPRK declared war on a vassal state and an invading military imposing itself on its country. The UN is a western controlled body that is not an authority on anything.

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                  What utter nonsense. The DPRK was as much a USSR puppet state as the ROK was an American one.

                  The DPRK started an aggressive war. Just like Putin’s Russia is doing today in Ukraine.

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                    It’s funny how quickly the conversation went from Israel is committing genocide and the US is supporting them to “DPKR, CCP, and USSR did nothing wrong…”

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      It depends on who writes the history books.

      According to my history books, the good guys always wins!

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      The US has long been the bad guy and ruined democracies around the world. The empire is finally crumbling.

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      Meanwhile, the IPC has declared Gaza to be in a state of near famine. With a certainty of it slipping into a famine in the coming weeks if Israel continues to block food aid at the Egyptian border.

      Nope no genocide here. Definitely not a tactic straight out of the evil dictator playbook.