Energy companies be like:

  • We need to ensure we price to stay in business, the profit margin is so thin
  • We are going to see a record profit, shareholders!

These companies are criminals and should be in prison for crimes against humanity

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    Your overall point isn’t incorrect but:

    so if your daytime power needs are high you can simply install panels on the roof.

    A renter certainly isn’t able to do this, given there is no incentive for landlords to install them.

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      there is no incentive for landlords to install them

      According to the QLD government, it is acceptable for landlords to raise the rent by, for example, $15 per week after installing a 5kW solar system.

      The math for that works out to about $1000 per year in reduced electricity bills for the tenant and $750 per year in extra rental income for the landlord. $750 per year will make the landlord a profit (after upfront costs are paid back) of several thousand dollars by the time the warranty on the solar panel runs out. (*)

      I assume it’s similar in other states.

      So, yes, there is an incentive. If I was a landlord I’d totally install panels. And if I was a renter, anywhere with panels would be at the top of my list. It’s an absolute no-brainer and I could simply place the upfront cost on my mortgage.

      It’s a better deal for the landlord than the tenant, but it’s still a good deal for the tenant. And the tenant doesn’t have to pay anything upfront and they can feel better about leaving the aircon running all day in summer… with solar your daytime electricity is “cost” is basically the solar feed in tariff, which is just 6c per kWh.

      (* Obviously those are rough figures, install costs depend on the house, and electricity savings depends on the angle of the roof, prevailing weather, time of day for electricity use, etc… but those numbers are based on reliable government funded research so it would be in the ballpark)

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        That relies on landlords being rational and willing to wait for the income to pay for the panels, which hasn’t been my experience interacting with them but hopefully some have the sense. And in this environment, they don’t really need any incentive to raise rent, they just do it. Going elsewhere also often isn’t an option given the low supply at the moment.

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          Not to mention the fact that, uh, I’ve literally lived in rentals where the landlord damned well knew the roof would not structurally support panels due to their poor maintenance

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          Yeah, housing is messed up in Australia right now. I don’t think it’s fair to blame landlords though. This is primarily a supply problem.

          There were state level legislative changes (in every state, but not all at the same time) around the year 2,000 which resulted in a significant drop in construction. It’s estimated we now have 1.3 million fewer houses than we would have if the legislation hadn’t changed.

          Most of the changes were an attempt to encourage apartment construction and discourage house construction… but what actually happened is they discouraged house construction without any real change on the apartment side.