• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If US support for Israel doesn’t concern Iran, why would Israel’s incentive change without it?

    Of course it concerns Iran. Why would you assume otherwise? And Israel’s incentives would change because without the support they can’t really hold up against Iran militarily, so diplomacy becomes a better option.

    They will weirdly, very proudly die trying if they get the chance. Such a war will kill tens of millions of people, displace tens of millions more, and lead to a cascade of failed states.

    Meh, scare mongering. Also, your numbers are probably way off, Israel only has a population of 9 mil, I can’t really see tens of millions of deaths and also tens of millions displaced. The region is just not that big.

    America’s strong military alliance with Israel is arguably the most significant part of western strategy in the middle east, the thing that keeps Iran from going frog.

    America’s military alliance is a sneaky, immoral way to keep a small hot war going for a century so we always have a testing ground for new weapons. That’s why America continues to support Israel. I want no part in it and it haunts me that so many of my tax dollars go into funding this cruelty, making me responsible.

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        6 months ago

        That’s fair, but it would also show their true intentions and turn the world against them. As seen with Russia, the world doesn’t like it when you commit atrocities, and they’ll band together to make it more difficult for you. As a result, I don’t see them actually using nukes on Iran. Nukes have always been a better deterrent than a weapon.

        I expect that they would keep Iran at bay by doubling down on their rhetoric to get the most out of their nuclear deterrent (just like Russia has). But being the smaller nation (by a lot) and also being generally outnumbered in the region by Islam, I don’t see them invading Iran, the odds would be impossibly against them.