• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Eventhough Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and supports the complete destruction of gaza

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      10 months ago

      They don’t care.

      The people pledging to vote against Biden over Israel are typically armchair politicians who get all their news from echo chambers. Facts and reality don’t matter; they honestly believe they are “sending a message” and “making a stand”. The reality is that they’re the 2024 version of 2016’s insufferable #voteswap techbros.

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        9 months ago

        Those people don’t vote. People are either undecided until the election or already decided. I could fill out the ballot right now.

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          9 months ago

          Bernie voters were actually voters of Hillary Clinton. It’s the moderates that went to Trump in the states that mattered.

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            9 months ago

            I’m talking about the ones who were going on about “if Bernie doesn’t win, I’m voting for Trump”. Heck, I wanted Bernie to win, but no way in hell was I going to vote for Trump.

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              9 months ago

              I know that’s the cohort you refer to. The bigger factor are moderates within swing states. Look, I’m not saying progressive votes don’t matter. I’m a strong Bernie supporter and progressives as well myself. Clearly their votes do matter, and increasingly to the point where candidates can’t ignore them. But, at the time, it’s not them being the most influential factor.