• FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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          Trans rights are a liberal value. You can call yourself a liberal or a “maga leftist”, but that just means you’re lying about what you call yourself.

          You’re just muddying the waters like a misinformation troll.

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              I’m not even a liberal, but y’all are so chronically online and accustomed to being in a little echo chamber you can’t talk to anyone rationally.

              I’ve never met a trans person IRL who needs me to remember 4 pronouns, or needs pronouns like “Fae”, but say something on Hexbear and you’re instantly transphobic liberal Hitler.

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                  So silly, I live in an exceedingly queer part of a city and work in a business that is all queer people, so about 1/5 of everyone I work with is trans.

                  As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

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                    As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

                    This tells more about you than about the people you interact with. A person I worked with was telling me and a trans ally he never heard someone complain about what pronouns he uses (in a meeting in which we spoke out against a transphobic suggestion he made). He was quite sure of himself and didn’t want to hear what we said. Even after we did make that semi public he stood his position, which is funny since my ally did actually demand in public to be recognized with the correct terms and name.

                    People didn’t feel save around him. In my environment trans people and plenty of others are giving you pronouns, but then again I am not outside the scene, am I?

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                columbo So you say trans rights are a liberal value right? Ah yes of course, that checks out.

                I’ll be going now. Actually, just one more thing, it’s probably nothing - didn’t you just say you don’t consider yourself a liberal?

                thinking-about-it

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                  I have many liberal values but I don’t identify as a liberal.

                  Liberalism had its place in pushing the envelope of progressivism for a while, but it’s not good enough.

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                    Well you’re obviously not a socialist, and you’re not a liberal, so that means you’re either a libertarian/conservative or some secret fourth thing, so please enlighten me, what are you?

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                    it’s not good enough.

                    Correct. Liberals have a tendency of equivocating the issue of human rights. Like you enjoy doing.

                    Please tell me you think the homeless are the real landlords so that we get the full triad of American Liberalism out of you.

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            You can call me a MAGA Leftist if you want, but that’s because you’re a misinformation troll.

            damn, you’re such a Liberal you had to respond to me twice about how much of a Liberal you totally aren’t

            trans rights are human rights btw

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            Practice democratic centralism, this means for hexbear shut up and read up on trans rights trans-hammer-sickle trans-dagger. The struggle session was decided and in the better times you would’ve been banned a while ago.

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          Trans people don’t need 4 pronouns including things like “Fae” and “Doe”, or by “trans” you are you referring to “trans-species” people?

          I’m not yet open minded on trans-species, I’ll grant you that.