In every election “left-leaning” neoliberals always try to guilt-trip Marxists into voting for their candidates with the usual schpiel: “Your party doesn’t have enough votes to win. You are just letting conservatives win”. What do you tell these people?

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    Trump won the Presidency in 2016.

    You keep making excuses for how you vote, OR you prevent a repeat of that disaster.

    I voted for Johnson in that election, and I am confident enough in my masculinity to admit that that was a mistake.

    Are you?

    Help us take down the GOP. Vote blue.

    Anything else is enabling fascism.

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      The still-open concentration camps at the border under this administration says voting for anyone in this shithole is enabling fascism, fuck you mean?

      The FBI raiding and locking up Black activists for going against the State Department narrative under this administration says voting for anyone in this shithole is enabling fascism, fuck you mean?

      That same State Department, black holing billions of dollars of military equipment so the military-industrial complex can print money building more to be the foremost agent of death and purveyor of terrorism in the world during this administration says voting for anyone in this shithole is enabling fascism, fuck you mean?

      As long as the two parties serve the same masters, electoralism is a joke, and all ballots are wasted ballots-- but I’m especially not going to waste my already-useless ballot on a fucking neoliberal.

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        You typed out quite a bit to effectively just change the subject. It would have been easier to just say “lalala” and put your fingers in your ears.

        All of those changes you want have been prevented by republicans.

        Don’t blame the dems for what the republicans do, particularly when bothsidesism (like yours) is to blame for them staying in power.

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          Nice deflection, does it come in ‘progressive’? Fuck out of here, man, you peddle the exact same muleshit every other VBNMW bluemagat does. At this point, I’d genuinely rather the country fall than have to humor another fuckin gladhanding charlatan the likes of those you worship, regardless of the color of their tie. And since you seem to be trolling the whole post for comments, this is no longer an opening for a dialogue unless you’re willing to cashapp me for the time wasted.

          debate pervert

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            That’s novel. I want you to keep asking libs to cashapp you for your time because it will almost certainly work eventually and I will consider you to have made the world a better place for your success.

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            VBNMW bluemagat

            When you can’t win a debate through valid arguments, invent bullshit ad hominem attacks to distract. Classic fascist.

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      At this point voting for either of the two sides of the corporate uniparty is enabling fascism. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for imperialism and warmongering. And yes this includes the so-called “progressives”.

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      Voting blue is voting fascist. And what should we call people who vote for fascists hmm?

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        How is voting blue fascist? Sounds like a “no u” response from someone who doesn’t understand big words.

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          Please explain in detail how voting for the president who funds and arms the demonstrably fascist US police departments and Ukrainian Azov battalion is not directly enabling fascism.

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            Thank you for being the one other person in this thread capable of rational argument.

            Ukraine is under seige; providing them with arms is what you do for allies in wartime.

            As for police departments, I agree there is work to be done there, but cutting off supplies isn’t how it’s done.