We can summarise all of these by saying “theft is taking with the intent to deprive the owner of said possession”.
Yes… and as I’ve pointed out to you repeatedly, we’re disagreeing on what is being stolen. You’re arguing that it’s not theft because no one is deprived of the media. That is not the argument. I’m arguing that they’re being deprived of the income. You are stealing money from the creator.
You’re assuming that the person would have paid for the media had they not pirated it.
No, I’m not. I’m not assuming anything. I’m flat out asserting that, if they had not been able to pirate it, they would not be able to consume the media unless they paid for it. This is a fact that you cannot dispute.
You’re poor because people didn’t want to buy it.
If they didn’t want to buy it, then they aren’t entitled to still make use of it.
I’m arguing that they’re being deprived of the income.
And, as I have said time and time again, the income you claim would most likely not have been yours if the pirate hadn’t committed copyright infringement. Just because they consumed your media does not mean you are owed money. If they couldn’t have pirated your media, they still would not have paid you. Thus, you are owed nothing. You have lost nothing. No one wanted to buy your thing to begin with.
They were happy to consume it when it was free, they would not have consumed it at the price you were asking.
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If they didn’t want to buy it, then they aren’t entitled to still make use of it.
Sure, they weren’t entitled to it. Copyright infringement/piracy is wrong. They shouldn’t have done that.
But it’s not the same as you writing a physical manuscript and them taking it from you. You still have the game, you’re still selling it, you haven’t lost anything. It’s just that no one wants to buy it.
Yes… and as I’ve pointed out to you repeatedly, we’re disagreeing on what is being stolen. You’re arguing that it’s not theft because no one is deprived of the media. That is not the argument. I’m arguing that they’re being deprived of the income. You are stealing money from the creator.
No, I’m not. I’m not assuming anything. I’m flat out asserting that, if they had not been able to pirate it, they would not be able to consume the media unless they paid for it. This is a fact that you cannot dispute.
If they didn’t want to buy it, then they aren’t entitled to still make use of it.
And, as I have said time and time again, the income you claim would most likely not have been yours if the pirate hadn’t committed copyright infringement. Just because they consumed your media does not mean you are owed money. If they couldn’t have pirated your media, they still would not have paid you. Thus, you are owed nothing. You have lost nothing. No one wanted to buy your thing to begin with.
They were happy to consume it when it was free, they would not have consumed it at the price you were asking.
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Sure, they weren’t entitled to it. Copyright infringement/piracy is wrong. They shouldn’t have done that.
But it’s not the same as you writing a physical manuscript and them taking it from you. You still have the game, you’re still selling it, you haven’t lost anything. It’s just that no one wants to buy it.