• Limeey@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Ah yes. The things dems can unilaterally provide but chosen not to! Darn those democrats!

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      The things dems claimed they would unilaterly provide when they had majority but didn’t because they are also corporate shills

      Thanks Obama

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        I know the ACA is not universal healthcare, but it was an improvement. Also we were one vote away from a single payer option, but then Joe Lieberman threatened to kill the whole bill over that one provision.

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          You’ll always be one vote away, any time any real change is possible, like a public option, enough people will swap sides. Been happening obviously since the blue dog Dems in the Clinton years. Sinema, Manchin… Predictable.

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          And if you recall passing the (very limited) ACA was political suicide for the party. Voters love the law 10yrs on but they did not like it then. 2010 was a bloodbath. Any party that decide to try and ram all that shit through would be out of power and the shit would be repealed in an instant.

          You don’t need better political parties, you need better neighbors. The people are the reason this country fails. Politicians just deliver the failure that we ask them for.

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            We got to see how eager Democrats were to pass the bailouts for their donors, followed by watching the party kill the public option like they intended to do from the very beginning.

            The difference between Obama’s plan and Clinton’s plan was that Obama’s had no individual mandate and a public option. We voted for Obama because his plan was better than Clinton’s. What we got was Clinton’s plan.

            Plus bailouts for wall street. Plus no accountability for those who caused the housing crisis. Minus closing Gitmo. Minus assistance for the worthless individual humans whose lives were ruined by the housing crisis. Minus codifying Roe.

            But yeah, we don’t dare try to fix healthcare! Look at how unpopular that and that alone is! It’s certainly not because we half-assed it and made it perfectly clear that Democrats are beholden to moneyed interests and moneyed interests only.

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              Don’t forget, large groups of Millennials did “take to the streets” in open protest of the way things were handled… only to be mocked by the very party and voters who claimed to be on our side. People tend to look at 2016 through a very narrow view rather than a series of missteps by Democrat politicians and moderate voters over 8 years. And 8 years later moderates continue to insist that as the majority of the Democrat party they can pick a pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting trash candidate in the primaries but have zero responsibility for what happens in the general. I’m so sick of leftists and progressives being told they’re minor wings but somehow are 100% responsible for what happens in the general elections. Both can’t be true.

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          I know the ACA is not universal healthcare, but it was an improvement.

          I remember 15 years ago when it passed. Democrats said the work wasn’t done and immediately gave up forever on passing the public option.

          Also we were one vote away from a single payer option

          Just like we were conveniently one vote away from passing BBB.

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        They did not claim they could unilaterally do it nor was there ever a filibuster-proof majority who wanted any of these things.

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    blue check liberals will see the creation of a low cost, uncontrovsial task force with legitemate motives to use art and popular culture to address mass incarceration, corporate greed in housing, justice reform and economic injustice, and be upset.

    it actually is possible to do two things at once yall.

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      Plus Dems dont even have control of the House or Senate where laws are created. Mfs literally dont understand how America works.

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        Plus Dems dont even have control of the House or Senate where laws are created.

        They did 2 years ago.

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          Bruh Sinema left the Democratic Party and Manchin was a Democrat in Name Only. The Dems were quite literally handicapped legislatively, I dont fully agree with American Democracy, but I am aware of its nuances, dont be asinine.

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            No. They ran as Democrats. They had the party’s financial support during their elections. You don’t get to retroactively disown them now that they’ve blocked legislation that the party never had any intention of passing.

            There are always enough manchins.

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              I’m not a Democrat, but ok. However, THEY disowned the Democratic party my guy, they quite literally were bought out by special interests, the party had every intention of passing a shit ton of legislation, you are sorely misinformed. I had extremely low expectations for Biden’s administration and he exceeded almost every one of them. Facts dont care about your feelings.

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                the party had every intention of passing a shit ton of legislation

                I have no reason at all to believe this.

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          No shit, it was designed to protect the interests of the Burgouis.

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      Bold to say it’s uncontroversial while simultaneously acknowledging those who would complain…

      Also what does it mean to “address” these issues? We don’t need awareness those on issues, which is about as useful as thoughts and prayers.

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        1. you know what i mean. uncontroversial as in the first criticism you or i saw on the matter came from a left leaning individual and not fox news.

        2. read the article.

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    Four things that they don’t have the votes for, so how dare them try to fix something else that has serious issues

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      Look, trap and mumblecore are terrible, I’ll give you that, but I really don’t think that’s a more serious issue then universal healthcare…

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        put another way, those four things will go a much farther way to relieve inequality than… uh. what even is a “hip hop task force”…?

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            “They can’t work on those 4 things. So they’re working on this other thing”

            “Yeah but that thing isn’t as important as one of those 4 things”

            Doesn’t really track…

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              Four things that they don’t have the votes for, so how dare them try to fix something else that has serious issues

              It was a joke based on the fact that it sounds like hip hop is the “something else” that has serious issues. You know, the ol’ lemmy switcheroo (I don’t have anything to link this to, sorry). It’s also based on the opinion (mine) that a lot of modern rap music is really bland and unimaginative.

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                Yeah, I get the joke – it just doesn’t quite work in context.

                Not sure why I care though.

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                  Well no, of course it doesn’t work in context, the whole joke was about ignoring the context.

                  Yeah, it’s all very unimportant, lol. I guess I need to utilize the /s more here on Lemmy, people just really aren’t expecting jokes here, haha

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        The movement depicted is about mass incarceration and justice reform, with a particular focus on tackling racial inequality.

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      yes, this.

      other comments ITT are doing the classic “bit” of knee-jerk quasi-racism in the form of “music critique,” while intentionally missing the point that propoganda works. supporting Black musicians in an industry that is well-established to be systematically racist is not bad.

      https://www.bmacoalition.org/

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    Of all of the criticisms of the Biden Admin’s many unforgivable failures, not passing anything is not one of them.

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    That’s less a list of things that could happen and more a list of things that would get laughed at by congress

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    This is what happened in Argentina. The Kirschner government kept making a bunch of useless SJW ministries that did nothing for nobody, to the point were it was a serious problem, and Milei ended up getting elected as a result.

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      Happening in Canada right now…all while ignoring the devastating impacts of the policies those committees enact.

      We’re going to end up with a bigoted misogynist fuckwad as our prime minister because of it.

      It’s wild that these liberals can’t see the damage they’re causing with these actions. I’m pretty damn liberal and I’m getting pushed out of the ‘tent’ because I’m not for open borders or making shop lifting legal etc etc.

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        I’m in Canada and we’re drowning in debt and rising costs and all our government talks about us sjw causes and foreign affairs, while Canadians and their day to day survival is ignored

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          ? Well that’s simply not true, Trudeau was in town yesterday announcing a pile of cash to hire 400 more doctors. In December it was nearly 200m for infill housing.

          They also do things like put tampons in men’s bathrooms proving they can be fucking retards while still doing their jobs.