• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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          “Are you suuuuure you don’t want to use Edge? Are you suuuuure you don’t want it to be the default handler for .pdf and .svg files? Are you sure? Are you sure you’re sure? Just in case, we’ll pin it to your start menu again and put a shortcut to it on your desktop. Just until you’re sure.”

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            Apple’s starting to get more and more into this. Safari pesters you and nobody wants NEWS/Stocks/AppleTv App, Weather, etc. But you can’t uninstall them :(

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              I was able to uninstall all of the apps you just mentioned on iPhone just to cure my curiosity.

              Which Apple device is not letting you uninstall those apps?

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                  No worries! I was just a little confused when I tried it on my iPhone and it worked.

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                  That’s what sudo rm -rf is for 😇. I’m going to try this on my Mac to satisfy my curiosity! Will report back.

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                    If only it were that easy. You have to disable SIP basically permanently if you want to do that and I’m not confident enough to do that quite yet, much as I do love to live dangerously. Maybe someone who understands this all better might chime in on the tradeoffs or risks/benefits.

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              I can always count on at least one idiot to mention Apple in a Microsoft hate thread.

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            I got so annoyed with the fucking shortcut reappearing that I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

            Just out of sight and out of mind.

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              I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

              lol I did the exact same thing. That and all the unnecessary crap my work installs that I will never use but can’t even uninstall the damn shortcuts they slap on my desktop are all jammed in the corner of a monitor off to the side.

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            And then they made it where you can’t just select a different browser, you have to go manually associate each type with the new browser.

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              Which means it’ll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft

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                    Windows itself has been a good reason to get rid of Windows for a long time

                    🤣 … best sentence i’ve seen today. +1

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                And most likely they’ll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.

                Where are these “probable” scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.

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                    “training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft” is rather a big jump from “report lots of telemetry data.”

                    I’m not saying people shouldn’t be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from “there’s a potential risk here” to “OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!” There’s already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let’s not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.

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              Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party. I know Cortana can take voice commands, and I’d doubt their AI thingy will be much different in the user facing implementation.

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        Which is also when they regularly try and get you to mistakenly click a button to make Edge your default browser. Scummy dark patterns.

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              I don’t know about Windows 11, but my Windows 10 instance also reverts my “fast startup” setting on every major update. I know this, because my PC’s motherboard does not work with “fast” startup and instead takes about half an hour to get from POST to desktop when it’s enabled. Suffice to say that I know when Microsoft changes this setting behind my back. I have it disabled for a reason, fuckheads.

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                AMD?

                I’ve got a Gigabyte Auros Elite X570 with the 5600. I have to disable fast boot from BIOS because it causes my computer to boot up much more slowly.

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                  I think Fast Boot is more about screwing up anything third party.

                  If it’s on, it bollixes up the wireless card if you reboot into Linux. But even without dual-booting, it seems to leave USB devices active that I don’t want (specifically a USB->serial adaptor with a peripheral danging off of it)

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      Great. Now give them a couple more years to learn they shouldn’t be installed by default in the first place.

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      I think the list of “apps” (AKA junk) people would actually like to deinstall is quite a bit longer.

      How about uninstalling edge? It is only needed to download Firefox, anyway.

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      It sure took them a while, but they seem to finally allow folks to personalize their experience. I’m not going to complain about it, though – this is definitely a good change.

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        Not far enough. It’d be lovely if I could scale Windows down to almost 7 gigs or so (what windows 10 is, probably should be lower) But the thing is Windows in general is just a bloated piece of crap that continues to grow.

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      Wait, so of the five apps they will “let” you uninstall now, one makes little sense to have in the consumer edition (remote desktop - which is effectively enabled in Pro only) and one is getting deprecated (Cortana - bye bye!).

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        The remote desktop they are talking about is the client app used to connect to remote systems.

        The remote desktop feature that’s limited to Pro is the ability for the system to receive remote connections.

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      Maybe someday they’ll discover checkboxes and use them to not have to install these apps in the first place.

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        “What’s a checkbox? Oh, you mean that thing we use to trick users into ‘consenting’ to telemetry?”

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          I think I’ve got it! So on install, we make a checkbox that says:

          • do not install web search in the start menu, but also I consent to Microsoft collecting creepy levels of data about me