cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12232980

Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave react to John Stewart’s recent commentary on Tucker Carlson.

Short Summary

  1. Late night comedians, including John Stewart, criticized Tucker Carlson for his positive review of Russia, accusing him of failing to understand the darker side of the Russian State.
  2. Chris Cuomo commented on the segment, pointing out the hypocrisy of Democrats who were upset with Stewart for criticizing Biden but cheered when he made fun of Carlson.
  3. Tucker defended himself against accusations of being a tool of the Kremlin, sharing a story about Boris Johnson demanding a million dollars for an interview.
  4. The discussion touched on the importance of public transportation as a government-run service that should be efficient and beneficial to taxpayers.
  5. Stewart was criticized for praising Moscow’s subway system, with the argument that having poor public transportation is not a price of freedom but a public service that should be well-maintained and accessible to all.
  6. The conversation highlighted the need for realistic assessments of different countries’ living conditions and infrastructure.
  7. Comparisons were made between the average American home size and indoor plumbing availability compared to Russia.
  8. The speaker discussed food costs and income allocation towards food purchases in Russia.
  9. The importance of historical movements leading to public infrastructure development and income equality measures like Medicare and Social Security was emphasized.
  • Jesus@lemmy.world
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    Her commentary about the subway was really concerning and shows that she either took zero time to do a modicum of research about Stalin’s subways, or she’s intentionally trying to be disingenuous.

    Stalin’s subways were by no means a Russian version of Roosevelt‘a WPA projects. They were famously built with a lot of forced labor from gulags. And the gulags famously contained lots of politician prisoners, POWs, people with “individualistic tendencies,” etc.

    And they were built to signal that Soviet communism could do big things. But like many big things under authoritarian rule, there is often a lot of pain and suffering hidden behind the shining facade.

    • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      Jon isnt listed on wiki as a journalist and to my knowledge has never called himself that.

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        A journalist is an individual who collects/gathers information in the form of text, audio, or pictures, processes it into a news-worthy form, and disseminates it to the public.

        Regardless of if he’s listed on some stupid fucking wiki or has ever called himself that, that is what he is currently roleplaying in his position.

        We’re not talking about Jon Stewart here. We’re talking about the two hosts of “The Hill” segment.

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          4 months ago

          Yeah, he’s a current events comedian, he doesn’t produce “newsworthy” content, or claim to.

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              You said he’s not. I’m not addressing your latter point.

              Specifically " Regardless of if he’s listed on some stupid fucking wiki or has ever called himself that, that is what he is currently roleplaying in his position."

              You’re pretty amped up, maybe you need more tucker time, or maybe less, I dunno

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                Nobody should be watching Tucker’s traitorous ass. But obviously you didn’t pick up that I’m not a fan of him…because the aforementioned, you know…reading comprehension.

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        The Hill journalists focused entirely on the facade of Stewart’s comments and didn’t acknowledge or engage with his main points about the deceit and hidden oppression that Tucker’s segment tried to elide over.

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        The Hill segment focused only on Stewart’s passing comments about US public transportation. Stewart was not commenting on the differences between US and Russian (Moscow) public transportation. Stewart was talking about how Russia is a brutal and oppressive regime and Tucker is a despicable “journalist” by knowingly lying in an attempt to make his audience believe that they need to sacrifice their freedoms.

      • thantik@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        How about the praising Tucker Carlson? Or hand-waving away the pictures of people being arrested for simply grieving Navalny? Basically trying to downplay Jon Stewart’s emphasis on the lack of political freedom that Russia’s citizens actually have.

        Did you even watch the video?

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          Not sure if my English fails me or if you’re saying that Russians have political freedom.

        • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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          We do not think the same way or know the same things.

          I did watch the video, but I do not share the viewpoints you have on Tucker/Navalny/Stewart/Russia.

          Thank you for pointing those points out!

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            4 months ago

            Are you translating via ChatGPT or something? Your English is awfully weird.

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                “Thank you for pointing those points out”

                And look through the history - I’m not sure what’s going on there; if he’s automated, or maybe an overseas content farmer. But the words are english, just not in the same order or cadence that someone would normally use.

                And don’t get me wrong, I’ve got no problems with non-english speakers, but things start getting a little suspect when non-english speakers are only posting US politics. On top of that, US politics which (in this case) are showing a clear pro-Russia bias.

            • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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              Nah, that is just my US public school education.

              I have put time into expanding my knowledge outside of school, but I admit that I must keep learning and improving.

              That is a reason I also interact in forums, so that I don’t get too rusty!

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    Rich old white guy skewers rich old white guy about some other rich old white guy.

    Keep their heads to the ground and they’ll never see whose holding them down.