Approaching their arguments from a position of “I’m only saying this to protect my ego/worldview” has a lot more success than actually treating their arguments as actual ideas they think are factual. Similar to dealing with conspiracy theorists. They believe things that make them feel good, not things that are factual (and unpleasant). And on some level they assume everyone else does the same, which is why we are either evil monsters for “supporting Putin” or whatever unsubstantiated accusation they want to hurl at us, or we are simply lying and believe the same feel good things they do, and are just being jerks and trolls to trick them.
Honestly, that probably explains 9/10ths of the liberal mindset.
Approaching their arguments from a position of “I’m only saying this to protect my ego/worldview” has a lot more success than actually treating their arguments as actual ideas they think are factual. Similar to dealing with conspiracy theorists. They believe things that make them feel good, not things that are factual (and unpleasant). And on some level they assume everyone else does the same, which is why we are either evil monsters for “supporting Putin” or whatever unsubstantiated accusation they want to hurl at us, or we are simply lying and believe the same feel good things they do, and are just being jerks and trolls to trick them.