Disgruntled progressive activists and organizations have embarked on a campaign to push voters to mark themselves “uncommitted” in protest of Biden’s stance on the Israel-Hamas War.

With 95% of the expected vote tabulated, 70.5% of voters backed Biden while 19.0% went uncommitted, according to a tabulation by The Associated Press.

In Minnesota, more than 45,000 marked themselves “uncommitted” — a number greater than the margin by which Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in the state in 2016.

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    Friendly reminder that telling people to ignore Genocide and vote blue is going to make Biden lose the election. Put some pressure on that man to stop giving israel weapons.

    But Trump

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      “But trump” is valid, though.

      He has proven to be more than willing to suck up to any global leader that he thinks is strong and powerful.

      And has already given Netanyahu concessions in the past.

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        Didn’t Hilary basically run on “But Trump”? If we don’t learn from history something something something….

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        That’s really cool. Maybe Biden can make it a bit more appealing for people by not sending israel weapons while they are openly stating they want to annex 3000 more homes in the West Bank. Instead of “Genocide vs more Genocide” how about “Not Genocide vs Genocide”?

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      Nobody’s saying to ignore the genocide.

      You can be upset about the Israeli genocide (although it would have been cooler if many of you were vocally protesting this 75-year genocide before 3 months ago), and still obviously recognize that Biden is the superior presidential candidate by every measure.

      Tear Biden a new one, but the Israeli genocide doesn’t make Biden by any measure the lesser candidate in the upcoming election, his administration and their policies have helped hundreds of millions of people, both broadly and on the local level, economically and on the front of civil rights.

      trump is a rapist who is in a bromance with netanyahu and said about the current Israeli invasion “finish the problem”.

      If the latest israeli invasion is the only issue you care about, and I sorely hope it isn’t, biden is still the better candidate.

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        We did the fearmongering thing in 2016, didn’t turn out so hot.

        How about appealing to voters instead?

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          There’s nothing fear-mongering about choosing the better of two candidates.

          It’s how voting works.

          Your point is invalid anyway .

          If your 2016 fear-mongering is invalid, then it’s invalid.

          If we pretend your 2016 fear-mongering is valid, then it proves itself invalid by 2020.

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            In 2020 Biden actually tried appealing to voters with student loan forgiveness and abortion rights.

            But instead of trying to get that passed he’s now trying to give israel 15 Billion in bombs.

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              I agree that the biden administration should market their myriad beneficial achievements more, but just because the Israel-Ukraine war is the most salient global event right now, it doesn’t mean that you should ignore everything else his administration has done and the benefit of so many domestic and other foreign policies.

              Again, it is fair to be upset that he isn’t immediately breaking one of the longest and most important US active alliances in a few months and involving the US more directly in this war, and you may righteously denounce this particular policy, but his presidential candidacy encompasses that and all other issues.

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                Wow that’s really nuanced. Israel is really important to Imperialism indeed. If we just ignore Saudi and Egypt existing which also have US bases.

                Too bad some people draw a very red line at Genocide.

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                  But they chose to wait for their entire lives that this genocide has been ongoing to draw that red line?

                  They’ve only decided to draw that red line right before this election?

                  Convenient timeline.

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                    Yes the very moment israel is using starvation and as a weapon of war to commit Genocide while receiving weapons from Joe Biden.

                    Everything I wrote above is all a giant conspiracy. Nothing is true there right? Stupid propaganda people against Genocide.

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              I mean, he did try to do $500 billion in student loan forgiveness but was voted down by Congress (both House and Senate voted to repeal it) AND by the Supreme Court (6-3 vote). Since then he has incrementally forgiven student loans to the tune of over $133 billion. That’s roughly 8% of the total student loan debt (including active students and students who just graduated).

              So maybe don’t say moronic things like “but instead of trying to get that passed…”

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        They always conveniently ignore that. They’d rather more Palestinians die as long as they feel good about themselves. It’s a completely bad faith argument and OP absolutely knows that.

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        Unless Biden change it to “No Genocide vs Genocide”.

        That would certainly make the choice easier for some.

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      Trump literally said to increase the genocide. Even IF the Biden WH was saying the genocide wasn’t happening, that would be better than active support for it. If you can’t see that then you probably need to take a step back,