• doublejay1999@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Racism might be hard wired into your brain, but it’s certainly not in mine. What an utterly stupid thing to say .

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      9 months ago

      I don’t think anyone is above implicit/unconscious bias. We are all at least a little bit prejudice subconsciously, and it helps to be aware of it, so that you don’t accidentally treat others differently.

      Implicit bias can turn into racist actions, if not kept in check.

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      9 months ago

      It’s literally engrained into your DNA but go off I guess.

      Racism is a part of “outsiders bad” which is bred into us because well, outsiders were bad. There was almost nothing more dangerous than running into an outside group.

      They might be friendly! They might share knowledge or food or resources! But more likely they’ll either kill you because you’re competition/not in the group/their god says your unclean.

      Racism is just the magnified effect of this well documented behavior.

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        9 months ago

        You can link to documents you’re referring to ?

        Because they will show everyone that the “outsiders are bad” is absolutely true, but they will not show a link to race or racism.

        Racism is a learned behaviour.

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          I agree that it’s a learned behaviour, but probably disagree on how it’s learned.

          I consider it a natural form of learning. Animals that don’t have predators are known to lack any cautious behavior towards other species. We even caused the extinction of such a bird by introducing predators into their habitat. Children who start out as blank slates are like that. They don’t care until they accrue enough experience to start recognizing the differences.

          We learn to distrust through experience. Whether this is directed by outside manipulation or self-realization, degrees of separation are gained over time through interactions or lack of. And the colour of one’s skin is an easily identifiable attribute that can give rise to the simple thought that we’re different. While to come to the conclusion that even if our skin colour is different, we are still the same on the inside is a lengthier thought process.

          The bias you might fall to in this context is generalizing racists. I don’t know if you do, so this is a hypothetical presentation.

          You don’t know how individuals have reached their conclusion to become racist and whether their personal experience has made them justified. You just assume that because racism is bad, they must be bad. Just like someone who becomes racist due to their bad experiences assumes everyone of a specific race is the same. It’s the same form of bias - to generalize a group based on your own experience with a few individuals.

          All we can say in support of our theories is “all the representatives of a group that I’ve met have been like this”, but even so, on a planet of 8 billion people, all of those are only but a drop in a bucket.

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          8 months ago

          Do you have documentation proving (beyond doubt) that racism is only a learned behavior? As an anthropology student I read so many textbooks that state otherwise, and I agree with their conclusions that racism is inherent in the “reptilian” human mind. If you don’t know what that is, you need to do more reading.

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        8 months ago

        It is actually part of the survival mechanism of us recognizing that we might be endangered by something unfamiliar to us. We DO have racist tendencies, all of us - including the tendency to call people “stupid” just for bringing up the idea of something new or challenging.

        We like to think we’re all above that, but in truth we’re still very primitive in many ways.

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          8 months ago

          Honestly humanity’s biggest hurdle is learning to ignore millions of years of instincts that helped us survive in a world that no longer exists.

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      8 months ago

      A stupid thing is dismissing new information without considering it because of your own prejudices, you’ve just proven what I was saying, everyone has racism or phobia (and you certainly do).

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      8 months ago

      But it is hardwired in every sentient organism to give your own race/species more survival chance.

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          8 months ago

          Put a chimp and a gorilla in a cage and see what happens. This is true all the way down to black ants and red ants.

          Most species tend to stick together and tolerate other species. But when something happens, like food shortage or not enough space, they stop tolerating the other species in favor for their own.

          There are even social experiments when a group of humans are given 2 colors of tshirts and random tasks. The people with the same color shirt tend to group and work together for no appearant reason… Other than it is built in behavior.

          You can’t deny this even if you find it an unpleasant property.

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            8 months ago

            You need to help me make the journey from racism being intrinsic vs Learned , and putting ants in a cage because I am totally lost.

            You’re making it up, you can’t back up a word of it, and I think it’s very silly.

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          8 months ago

          And I wonder if you just can’t accept any other point of view, because it challenges you and threatens you in some way.