• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    The big user experience problem is everyone is getting funneled into Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml, and they can’t scare fast enough.

    But Lemmy is federated. So signup for a smaller instance. You’ll still be able to subscribe and post to communities on other instances.

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      Ha, I applied to two smaller instances and have heard nothing but radio silence. The smaller instances are of no help if they don’t let anyone in.

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      I was on world at first because I thought each instance was its own subreddit, so I went with the one with the most users! After a day and a half I somewhat understand instances now and have switched to a smaller one. Hopefully other reddit refugees will do it too.

      Thanks for being so welcoming and patient with us. I’m really glad to be here.

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      1 year ago

      That’s where join-lemmy really missed out. They should have introduced a set of rules like join-mastodon where instances must have at least two admins, a clear code of conduct, and clear rules as to how they manage closedown. That way users would be reasonably safe in picking an instance at random. But they didn’t so everyone should go to safe choices like lemmy.world.

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        Everyone keeps saying to join the smaller instances, but the reason people aren’t is because they are harder to find and usually have application gates thrown up. Because you can’t apply through the app, and because I am on mobile, I don’t even know how many Instances I applied for and then forgot what the instance was even called by the time they may or may not have approved.

        All of this needs to be laid out better from the get-go. Even simply listing a server strain metric or warning (even if it’s something admins set themselves) would be useful.

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          All in all, they have some of the biggest communities for gay folks, Trans folks, and other minority groups. Lots of trolls from large open instances were shit posting lots of hateful crap in those communities.

          The Lemmy’s mod tools are still kind of janky and they couldn’t keep pace with the toxic trolling, so they made the call to defederate from instances like Lemmy.world temporarily, until some new mod tools get built.

          All the admins from the defederated instances get it and they all appear to be on the same page.

          That said, users got pissed because beehaw has one of the best tech communities. So now people on Lemmy.world don’t have their posts / comments show up in those communities.

          Basically, they had two shitty options, and they went with protecting the vulnerable minority.

          It’s temporary.

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          Beehaw is a community that wants to create a specific type of experience for its users, it wants to create a safer space and has stricter rules.

          I think it’s personally a non-issue that people get riled up about. They’ve temporarily defederated from lemmy.world because of the large spikes in new users and wanting to have the moderation tools necessary to handle that while keeping their community the way they want it.

          There is a subset of new Lemmy users who think this experience needs to be Reddit 2.0, that it needs to be perfect and totally smooth for new users, or else it will fail?

          Personally, I don’t agree. I don’t want Lemmy to be Reddit at all. In the last month, I’ve found that I didn’t realize just how bad my Reddit experience had become. I’m okay with the experience being a little rough around the edges here and adjusting together. It has become obvious based on how good my interactions were here. How solid and interesting the content was. I’m not fiending for my specific subreddits, I’m good to move on and find new areas to focus on the internet.

          I have a separate account for Beehaw, all the iOS apps already have way way better functionality than the Reddit official app, I can seamlessly switch between accounts. It’s been absolutely amazing to see how much this site and experience has evolved in one month. I’m super excited for the future here.

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            One thing I don’t miss is the “culture”… I hope this shift into the fediverse frees comment sections of the endless same dumb low effort puns, and even worse puns in the replies. Or fucking award speeches in comment edits, the same shitty jokes that nobody likes but somehow still perpetuate…

            I really look forward to something new

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              I’m late to the conversation. Yeah, that’s what I hated about Reddit. I’ve been using it since 2009, and I noticed that it got progressively worse the moment they introduced karma.

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          Post by beehaw admins

          Basically, due to the size and open registrations on some large instances, Beehaw admins decided to defederate because they didn’t have the manpower or systems in place to deal with the large volume of content.

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          Beehaw defederated from other instances as users were getting around bans by creating new accounts on those instances. The admins in question are talking about how to address this.

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          They are overly sensitive special snowflakes that pipi their pampers if anybody that doesn’t have 100% the same opinions as them is allowed to use the internet

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            1 year ago

            Motives aside, the point is one account won’t always get you everywhere. Doing a little research before picking a home instance can’t hurt.

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      8 months ago

      The real magic is that you don’t even have to use Lemmy. You can use Kbin if you like that interface better.

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          A message in a bottle is easier to use. Also, the maintenance cost is negligible, since the system is powered by renewable wave energy. The only downside is the lag, which can vary from a few days to several centuries.

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          I can’t fathom how they bought a good app, put a dev “team” on it for 7 years, and still don’t have half the features some neckbeards in their mom’s basements without access to the backeng still managed to put into their apps.

          What a pack of incompetent fucks.

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    I want to be mad but FFS Reddit had Conde Nast money for most of its shittery so they had NO excuse except incompetence.

    At least Fediverse servers are typically Steve’s old laptop or some shit so it’s understandable.

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    Given the… frankly absurd rate at which people are signing up to servers, and subscribing to other servers, and posting and commenting and upvoting and…

    I mean it’s getting a bit hairy, and user growth was already following a very steep growth curve. Reddifugees are hugging all instances to death.

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        1 year ago

        Well, they are different server with different versions of lemmy running. But I think lemmy.world is running great again

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    It just feels so weird to have big threads with good fresh discussions going on hours after the post.

    Not to say there isn’t an occasional asshole here and there during this wave, but I don’t think reddit has ever felt like this at any point.

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      It’s because sorting comments by “hot” prioritizes new comments more than old comments even taking into account votes. So a 3d old comment with 50 votes might appear below a 2h old comment with 5 votes. Unlike Reddit which just pushes the first comments to the top and anything new will drown in the sea of comments and never surface or be seen.

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    If you’re on one of the bigger instances (lemmy.world for example) use https://lemmyverse.net/ to pick a smaller, less crowded instanceto call home.

    I created an account on reddthat.com earlier today, and it’s way less laggy than lemmy.world (my initial instance).

    Hopefully in time lemmy gains functionality thatmakis account backup/porting easy so moving instances in nbd.

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      Or even simpler, a feature that lets you aggregate history, posts, comments and subscriptions from multiple instances in a transparent way.

      Sort of a meta-account / fedacount that tells all Lemmy instances that accounts a, b, c, and d are all the same user.

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        Doesn’t that kind of go against the idea of federation? I don’t know if it’s worth compromising on.

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          aggregating so many different cats community into one feed is a dream🤩🐱.

          Right now i subscribe to 5 different technology@<instances>, but if i could create a custom community set according to my preferences then i could see all those 5 in one layout, without breadmaking and other contents breaking them up. the choice now is all posts from all communities or only one specific community.

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            aggregating so many different cats community into one feed is a dream🤩🐱

            I can completely understand that :)
            Maybe an option to make your own collections of communities? A function on the client side where you can apply tags, or something like that?

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      Lemmy at least needs a feature like Mastodon to allow you to migrate your accounts to another instance.

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    Yeah, this is taking me back to 2013 reddit. Really enjoying it here. I’m hoping it continues to walk down this path.