• ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Life is so fucking grim and full of misery and there’s barely anything to help people cope but weed is the hill you die on.

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          I don’t like it, I’m fine with people who do though. Drugs aren’t for me :)

          • James Dreben :mw:@mastodon.world
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            @Retirix_YT @ilikekeyboards If that’s truly how you feel, you shouldn’t say you think it doesn’t rock. That expresses disapproval, even if you don’t mean it to.

            what you just said about weed is what religious extremists say about being gay - a much more harmful take than being anti-weed, imo. Just using this as an example to illuminate why your OG comment connotes greater judgment / hostility to people who smoke weed.

            If it doesn’t rock for you then say that not that it doesn’t rock ya see?

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                  I meant to say ‘say’ not see. Sorry if what I said offended you in some way (not being sarcastic)

                  I personally just hate drugs, I don’t like how they make me feel not in control of myself and I don’t like not being in control.

                  • James Dreben :mw:@mastodon.world
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                    @Retirix_YT Totally reasonable. not offended at all if anything I felt my reaction was unreasonable, is why I deleted :)

                    I thought I read more judgment of others in your comment(s) than I’m reading now. Totally fair to personally not partake and express that!

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            What about caffeine? People act like “drugs are bad” is a reasonable stance, but they mean illegal drugs which just happen to be illegal, usually without good reason. Most adults are drug addicts, it’s just that the drug of choice is caffeine and they don’t see it as an issue because it’s legal and been normalized.

            Animals have been doing drugs for longer than humans have existed. There are many benificial drugs that can help us with manually regulating bodily activity. Used responsibly, drugs can be great.

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              1 year ago

              Caffeine is just a mild stimulant though. Doesn’t have the same affects

              Same with medicinal drugs too. They’re fine

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                What about alcohol? Rapes, murders, even silly accidents like falling down the stairs and caving your head in is unfortunately quite common for the inebriated.

                Loads of people had an argument too many and pulled the trigger during a moment of inebriety.

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                Yeah, the point is that drugs are fine morally. It’s when they’re abused they cause issues. There is some line that you’ve made up where drugs become “bad” but it is made up. Recognizing that it’s a made up line is important. I’m not saying you need to use drugs or anything like that, just realize that “drugs are bad” is a blatantly dishonest and untrue statement.

                There are also plenty of psychoactive drugs that can be pretty helpful to human mental health. Marijuana also can have many health benefits, and it doesn’t cause people to do dangerous things usually. Most of the time it just causes people to sit around inside and not bother other people, unlike alcohol.

                Drugs aren’t bad. Drug abuse is bad. Doing bad activities while on drugs is also bad, but the drugs are not.

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                  Sure, I don’t say drugs are bad, I say I don’t like them. Why do I have to keep saying this man?

                  Where did I say drugs weren’t morally fine or bad??

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              Straight out of the addicts playbook. Former stoner of 10 years, I see the excuses. Needing drugs to walk through life is like needing a crutch. You are not stronger with them, they are an inhibitor to your natural greatness.

              “I don’t need drugs, I want them”

              Desire, when the pattern holds, becomes need. I used to think “yeah stopping weed is easy,” then would spend all the time in-between thinking “this situation would be so much better with weed.” So much so that I did absolutely insane things to get hold of it while I was living in China. My desire was very much in the realm of need, but I always made excuses to myself and my loved ones.

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                I rairly use caffeine (I was addicted at one point, noticed it, then drastically reduced consumption. I have a cup of coffee maybe every three days max.), and alcohol (Also not that frequently). I’ve also used Marijuana a handful of times and that’s it. I’m not an addict. I just recognize drugs have been used throughout history, often to great effect. I also recognize that the modern illegal drugs are political, not practical.

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          Life really isn’t that grim you’re just depressed. And weed is know for causing depression to keep spiraling. Good luck