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Advancing Web standards to empower individuals and groups.

Curious what others think of this? This was linked in Tim Berners-Lee’s open letter on the state of the web at 35yrs.

  • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Centralisation is something we see in other facets of our society and it fails there too. Look for instance at the grass roots movement to have a third party in the US government. The numbers aren’t there even though people agree the 2 party system is broken. So you’re correct that centralisation is an issue, but I think op is also correct that grass roots movements don’t have any teeth in the internet space, and an equally large or larger power has to step in and in this case legislate. Not that it seems you were arguing the other point exactly. Just that I think the two points are kind of entwined together.

    • Lvxferre@mander.xyzEnglish
      4·
      8 months ago

      I agree that relying solely on grassroots is bad; larger groups of people are specially hard to coordinate towards common goals. However, as @[email protected] mentioned there’s more than grassroots backing Solid up. And, even for the Fediverse, it seems that Mastodon caught some positive attention of government entities, like Switzerland.

      So, perhaps that’s a bit of wishful thinking, but the teeth might eventually grow, even if they aren’t there from the start.

      Regarding your example: it’s tricky for me to talk about USA’s government because I’m not from USA. For me the main issue seems to be the use of winner-take-all representation perpetuating the two-parties system; if that’s correct you’d need more than just a social movement to have a third party, you’d need structural changes. [Don’t trust what I said here, please. From the outside, details are always lost.]

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        You’re correct about the election system. Because we use a winner-take-all first-past-the-post (who came up with that name?) system, any vote for a third party weakens the position of whichever of the two main parties you would’ve otherwise voted for, and has an impossibly small chance to elect your chosen candidate, so it basically just works against your own interests.