First, It’s definetly easier said then done. Trust me, I’ve said it multiple times and didn’t manage to do it even once.
Ok, basically it boils down to dialectics. Different organization of humans alters humans in mind and behaviour. Human nature is not fixed, we’re freakin flexible and largely formed by our circumstamces, which mainly consist of human made structures, options, etc.
I stupidly say brainmode to point towards the possibility of rationality in both individuals and society (just one does not work great). Meaning we’d understand someone needs to clean that toilet and if everyone feels more or less integrated/seen and is regularily part of collective subjectivities, people will say fine to cleaning the bathroom from time to time.
All that only happens when society is both socialist and democratic. Being hold at gunpoint or cleaning that toilet under thread of starving makes you do it, but you will need to be “incentivized” for ever, because the reality of your praxis is in fact not solidarity or reason, but force.
Collective reason does not grow in individualist praxis. Neither does the will to do shit for free or for others.
The question of possibillity is indeed a question of history. Socialism as the more-human concept without democracy was a shit idea all along. And the left in the ussr knew, they just lost.
The individual we find in this social order is a frightened, humiliated, heart-cooled-down, thus egoistic one. Its the only configuration that brings you through life in capitalism (yes of course its not deterministic, there is some slack etc). Subjectivity is misinterpreted as individualism, while in fact we act as kollektives, we pretend not to, for the sake of a misguided concept of freedom.
I am convinced people are able to understand that and “feel it”. The tricky part is it needs a change in real world options for these ideas to make practical sense. And it needs those ideas to create those options (i.e. changing social structure) there you have dialectic thinking, wich is appropriate for humans and their history, imo.
And by the way, I could well imagine democratic socialism where allocation and production are mainly planned according to the needs of people, with high degrees of self government etc. wich still uses market-like-incentives in exceptional cases, like boring jobs really no one wants to do (cleaning that toilet for example). But it wouldnt be market principles structuring economy, just society saying “alright, no one wants to take care of festival toilets, so if you do it you get a reward”
First, It’s definetly easier said then done. Trust me, I’ve said it multiple times and didn’t manage to do it even once.
Ok, basically it boils down to dialectics. Different organization of humans alters humans in mind and behaviour. Human nature is not fixed, we’re freakin flexible and largely formed by our circumstamces, which mainly consist of human made structures, options, etc.
I stupidly say brainmode to point towards the possibility of rationality in both individuals and society (just one does not work great). Meaning we’d understand someone needs to clean that toilet and if everyone feels more or less integrated/seen and is regularily part of collective subjectivities, people will say fine to cleaning the bathroom from time to time. All that only happens when society is both socialist and democratic. Being hold at gunpoint or cleaning that toilet under thread of starving makes you do it, but you will need to be “incentivized” for ever, because the reality of your praxis is in fact not solidarity or reason, but force.
Collective reason does not grow in individualist praxis. Neither does the will to do shit for free or for others.
The question of possibillity is indeed a question of history. Socialism as the more-human concept without democracy was a shit idea all along. And the left in the ussr knew, they just lost.
The individual we find in this social order is a frightened, humiliated, heart-cooled-down, thus egoistic one. Its the only configuration that brings you through life in capitalism (yes of course its not deterministic, there is some slack etc). Subjectivity is misinterpreted as individualism, while in fact we act as kollektives, we pretend not to, for the sake of a misguided concept of freedom. I am convinced people are able to understand that and “feel it”. The tricky part is it needs a change in real world options for these ideas to make practical sense. And it needs those ideas to create those options (i.e. changing social structure) there you have dialectic thinking, wich is appropriate for humans and their history, imo.
And by the way, I could well imagine democratic socialism where allocation and production are mainly planned according to the needs of people, with high degrees of self government etc. wich still uses market-like-incentives in exceptional cases, like boring jobs really no one wants to do (cleaning that toilet for example). But it wouldnt be market principles structuring economy, just society saying “alright, no one wants to take care of festival toilets, so if you do it you get a reward”