You really don’t ever need a car, with good public transit. You can use the delivery van or rent something twice a year, I’m sure.
Depending on geography, even delivery vans may be unnecessary; cargo bikes work pretty well on flat terrain.
I haven’t ever had a car. Not in a hypothetical world where we built public transit, but here, in the present/past real world. Most of the times this has been a problem were caused by other people using cars, and I don’t consider becoming part of the problem to be a solution there. It can be done.
I would be really annoyed having to rent something every time I wanted a new bed, tv, dresser, that sort of thing. It’s nice having my own vehicle that can do it.
Like I said we should absolutely have good robust public transportation everywhere so that I only need to use it on those very specific occasions which will drastically cut down on the problems with so many cars but I should still be able to have one. Trying to outright remove cars from people will never lead to anything useful because they will fight you tooth and nail.
Make it so that I don’t need it but can still have it if I want it and suddenly they will be on the road significantly less often, I’m glad that you have been able to get by without one and are happy but not everyone is going to be the same. I mean hell I regularly make trips between the states almost every other week for seeing friends and I would really hate to do that on public transportation because it would take what’s already a 6-hour round trip and probably turn it into a 10 hour round trip.
Have you ever taken a train? Amtrak is a fucking joy.
Like genuinely a pleasant experience, and I don’t just mean the joy of not getting dry fucked by sandpaper and barbed wire. Its really comfy, the scenery is often quite nice, there’s decent WiFi and a bar, you can wander the train and fuck off to the bar if you get bored reading or whatever-not a great bar; beer and wine only no coctails, but we could fix that too.
And if we actually cared about rail, especially passenger rail, the speed caps on that are so much fucking higher than you could possibly get with individual cars. Trips would be more frequent, too.
Yes I’m familiar with riding trains, both in and out of the us. It is enjoyable but it is much slower than just hopping in my car and going straight to where I’m going. For the sake of those trips where I’m hopping around between states and coming back in a single day I would not want to have to do it by train. When I’m going out of state and staying out of state for a couple days train is perfectly fine and as long as the Amtrak lines up with my schedule I generally will
Do you want those states to have living things in them in fifty years? Do you want exterior temperatures under 105f/40c most days?
Because you can’t have both that and cars. This isnt me being your mom, this is me telling you youre the reason I don’t bother with savings, because I have an inkling what the world is gonna be in twenty years if we don’t fix shit now, and I’m not eager to see that shit.
Have you actually looked at any of the studies the majority of our greenhouse gases are coming from? Transportation is only a small piece of it. If your goal is to stop climate change then there are significantly more important things you could be targeting. Fuels used for generating electricity, as byproducts in the manufacturing of goods, and the clear cutting of forests all contribute significantly more to Greenhouse production than Transportation does.
That’s not to say we shouldn’t reduce Transportation emissions still, which you seem to think I’m not advocating for but I clearly am because I am saying I want better public transportation and I want to be able to use my car less often I just don’t want it taken away from me entirely. But using it as an argument for the removal of cars is weak because it’s not even one of the largest contributors
Like I’m for reducing agriculture emissions(going vegan), I’m for increasing rail to the point flying feels absurd (and getting rid of it, mostly), and I’m for not burning fossil fuels for any reason. But the future where we just switched to electric cars abd everything else is the same? We (or our grandparents) walked past that door, carter admin or Chevy volt at the latest. Its underwater now.
The ecological cost of cars (break and tire dust in our lungs and water-thats where most of your microplastics come from) producing and moving tons of material for every 1-5 hundred pound human, black pavement that won’t let water through, and just the sheer wasted space, we can’t afford it anymore. Its not worth it.
But its not all bad! Trains are cool as fuck, and crazy efficient per joule-a filthy diesel train belching clouds of smoke is cleaner and greener than an electric car running on clean nuclear/wind power, so imagine what we could do with overhead wire/third rail?
And yeah you might have to walk a block or two to the train station, once robust transit gets put in, but you’d get your steps in, and honestly in Los Angeles most people walk at least that far to their cars anyway.
You really don’t ever need a car, with good public transit. You can use the delivery van or rent something twice a year, I’m sure.
Depending on geography, even delivery vans may be unnecessary; cargo bikes work pretty well on flat terrain.
I haven’t ever had a car. Not in a hypothetical world where we built public transit, but here, in the present/past real world. Most of the times this has been a problem were caused by other people using cars, and I don’t consider becoming part of the problem to be a solution there. It can be done.
I would be really annoyed having to rent something every time I wanted a new bed, tv, dresser, that sort of thing. It’s nice having my own vehicle that can do it.
Like I said we should absolutely have good robust public transportation everywhere so that I only need to use it on those very specific occasions which will drastically cut down on the problems with so many cars but I should still be able to have one. Trying to outright remove cars from people will never lead to anything useful because they will fight you tooth and nail.
Make it so that I don’t need it but can still have it if I want it and suddenly they will be on the road significantly less often, I’m glad that you have been able to get by without one and are happy but not everyone is going to be the same. I mean hell I regularly make trips between the states almost every other week for seeing friends and I would really hate to do that on public transportation because it would take what’s already a 6-hour round trip and probably turn it into a 10 hour round trip.
re: interstate public transit:
Have you ever taken a train? Amtrak is a fucking joy.
Like genuinely a pleasant experience, and I don’t just mean the joy of not getting dry fucked by sandpaper and barbed wire. Its really comfy, the scenery is often quite nice, there’s decent WiFi and a bar, you can wander the train and fuck off to the bar if you get bored reading or whatever-not a great bar; beer and wine only no coctails, but we could fix that too.
And if we actually cared about rail, especially passenger rail, the speed caps on that are so much fucking higher than you could possibly get with individual cars. Trips would be more frequent, too.
Yes I’m familiar with riding trains, both in and out of the us. It is enjoyable but it is much slower than just hopping in my car and going straight to where I’m going. For the sake of those trips where I’m hopping around between states and coming back in a single day I would not want to have to do it by train. When I’m going out of state and staying out of state for a couple days train is perfectly fine and as long as the Amtrak lines up with my schedule I generally will
Do you want those states to have living things in them in fifty years? Do you want exterior temperatures under 105f/40c most days?
Because you can’t have both that and cars. This isnt me being your mom, this is me telling you youre the reason I don’t bother with savings, because I have an inkling what the world is gonna be in twenty years if we don’t fix shit now, and I’m not eager to see that shit.
Have you actually looked at any of the studies the majority of our greenhouse gases are coming from? Transportation is only a small piece of it. If your goal is to stop climate change then there are significantly more important things you could be targeting. Fuels used for generating electricity, as byproducts in the manufacturing of goods, and the clear cutting of forests all contribute significantly more to Greenhouse production than Transportation does.
That’s not to say we shouldn’t reduce Transportation emissions still, which you seem to think I’m not advocating for but I clearly am because I am saying I want better public transportation and I want to be able to use my car less often I just don’t want it taken away from me entirely. But using it as an argument for the removal of cars is weak because it’s not even one of the largest contributors
Wow you really want to fuck your car, don’t you?
Like I’m for reducing agriculture emissions(going vegan), I’m for increasing rail to the point flying feels absurd (and getting rid of it, mostly), and I’m for not burning fossil fuels for any reason. But the future where we just switched to electric cars abd everything else is the same? We (or our grandparents) walked past that door, carter admin or Chevy volt at the latest. Its underwater now.
The ecological cost of cars (break and tire dust in our lungs and water-thats where most of your microplastics come from) producing and moving tons of material for every 1-5 hundred pound human, black pavement that won’t let water through, and just the sheer wasted space, we can’t afford it anymore. Its not worth it.
But its not all bad! Trains are cool as fuck, and crazy efficient per joule-a filthy diesel train belching clouds of smoke is cleaner and greener than an electric car running on clean nuclear/wind power, so imagine what we could do with overhead wire/third rail?
And yeah you might have to walk a block or two to the train station, once robust transit gets put in, but you’d get your steps in, and honestly in Los Angeles most people walk at least that far to their cars anyway.