• Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Some may remember several years ago when the jackass head of Papa Johns cried to Fox News, “if I have to give my employees decent health care the price of pizza will go up 10 cents!!” - as if that comment was supporting his argument.

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        Economics of scale.

        The end consumer doesn’t give two shits about that small an increase.

        But the CEO sees that as $0.10 across a billion dollars gross revenue…

        That could be 100 million in profit.

        Even tho the money is hypothetical still, he ain’t letting go of it.

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            Exactly…

            If they raised the price ten cents to pay for healthcare and/or a living raise, they don’t view it as costing them nothing.

            They see it as losing the money they aren’t even currently getting.

            I feel like I’m just repeating myself, but it’s hard to make it any simpler.

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            Don’t worry I understood what you meant (and am slightly confused by the other comments — maybe they think they’d sell less pizza and therefore make less over all?)

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      The higher price of $8.65 for a cheeseburger combo doesn’t seem too bad to me. Only one or two places I can think of around here are cheaper than that.

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        I’ve had both, I’d totally eat a bag of Dick’s. :)

        I have yet to have a decent In-N-Out burger. Burned little hockey pucks. 4 different restauaraunts. LA, Sun City, Cupertino, San Francisco. Animal style, not animal style… doesn’t matter.

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            Their fries are the best part. Shake Shack is also pretty great. Get a milkshake with your burger and fries, trust me on this.

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              I’ve seen shake shack over the years but haven’t had a chance to go. Good call ill check it out this weekend.

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              Lul you’re right, a bit pricey but they’re good. I very occasionally treat myself to one of these places, I’m trying to eat healthier so it’s mostly home cooked meals for me.

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          I’m glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t like in-n-out. I’ve only had it twice but both times were extremely underwhelming; once in Phoenix AZ and once in Vegas. Over cooked burgers and shit fries. I do not understand the hype at all.

          Never had or even heard of dicks. I’m from the Midwest though so I’m assuming it’s another west coast chain.

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          That’s a bit surprising, but you can ask for your patty to be “medium rare.” I’ve found Dick’s to be more well-done, and the first time I ate there, the fries were absolutely disgusting. It’s definitely the place to go when it’s 1 AM and you need some burg, but my first stop any time I’m back in CA is In-N-Out.

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            It’s always wild for me to read such high opinions of In-N-Out, not to yuck anyone’s yum but I’m from the east coast and was pretty excited to try In-N-Out when I came out west for work about a decade ago. But I don’t get the hype for it at all, fries were alright and burger was acceptable, I’ve tried it again since and felt the same, and Dicks is about the same, nothing to really write home about

            I’m glad you enjoy it, but if your ever in the southeast give Cookout a shot and see how it compares for you

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              Dick’s doesn’t pretend to be more than it is, is the difference. No weird religious foundation, no secret menu, just a bag of reasonably priced burgers that you can walk to after midnight.

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                I got no beef with Dicks, it’s the closest thing to a spiritual brother to Waffle House as I can find out here

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              Cookout is great for milkshakes the burger and fries not really any better than any other fast food place catering to high school/nostalgia and a weird cult.

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        I don’t think you have the same In-N-Out that we do. The only thing more anemic is a Jimmy John’s sandwich.

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          I’ve only visited ones around the Bay Area, and most frequently the Mountain View location at Grant & El Camino Real.

          Odd that you’d compare them to Jimmy John’s, which I recall making a very decent sub, as opposed to other popular chains such as Jersey Mike’s, which is the first that comes to mind when reading the term “anemic.”

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            I’ve never had Jersey Mike’s, nor am I likely to with their annoying ads, but I’ve tried Jimmy John’s, and their BLT was mostly mayo on a plastic-adjacent bun.

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              It’s entirely likely their quality has gone way downhill, and that there’s variation between locations. It’s been a couple years since I had one of their sandwiches and it was quite good, as were the many I’d had years prior.

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      Man, I wish more businesses operated like Dick’s. They sound like they legitimately care about their workers and community. What good is the “free” market when it comes at the expense of peoples’ happiness and wellbeing?

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        Dick’s are genuinely good people. If you find yourself in the Seattle area, hit them up!

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    Man over the last few years prices around me went up way higher than that and nobody got a raise so…

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      A few years ago a dollar would get you a double-cheeseburger at the McDonald’s down the street from my office. Now it will get you 30% of a hash brown.

      The employees make the same now as they did before.

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        Oh shit remember Dollar Menus?

        Pretty much every fast food place had a $1 menu for awhile, full of cheap stuff like single cheeseburgers and small fries. You could spend $3-4 and get quite a bit of food for an adult!

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          I remember when I visited the USA as a child in 2000 and handed over $1 for the “$1 cheeseburger” and was told no, it’s not a dollar, thats the price excluding tax…

          Why the fuck does the sign say $1 if its not $1! 🤦🤦🤦

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            Boring but sensible answer to lots of versions of the same basic question (ISP/telephone line quotes, retail prices, etc):

            The US is made up of tens of thousands of mini-jurisdictions, each with their own unique rules and regulations. Sometimes taxes, permits, fees, etc change from place to place and the price is going to be different from one place to another. When you have a national-level marketing department, it’s easier just to quote the price you know applies everywhere, and let the locals add the rest on top.

            For phone service it’s really crazy. I used to work for a phone company, and there were outlier counties that charged $12/month in fees (50 cents is closer to normal) to each phone line for access to 911 service on what was nominally a $15 landline service. We couldn’t just honor the $15 price and eat that $12 on top of the rest of the local fees and taxes - we’d have been losing money with each additional customer.

            So the result was the national advertised price was still $15, and depending on your jurisdiction your out-the-door cost was going to be between $20 and $40.

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              but that’s no excuse for the price seen / shown inside the store to not be the price you pay - especially with electronic display screens now.

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                Also even before that it’s not complicated to set the price including tax then deduct the tax from the listed price at point of sale, as it had to be calculated at that point regardless…

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                Because that is the price of the item. The tax is on the sale. Some states do not allow you to advertise the post tax price. It’s incredibly stupid.

                At least that is somewhat reasonable. Internet companies regularly advertise one price and then add a bunch of fees on top that can add another 20% to the cost. The FCC is forcing them to cut that out and they are bidding that they cannot be expected to know what all of the fees will be on each location as if they do not have all that info on their fucking database.

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            And there’s nothing indicating how much that tax is. You either know or you don’t.

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        The hash browns inflation really has been something else man. I feel like it’s partially because the app basically gives away a bunch of breakfast food almost for free, and then asks if you want to add a hash brown to the order. Of course I’m going to add the hash brown. It’s bullshit that it is $3, but I can’t like not have the hash brown. That would be un-American

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      Absolutely agreed. Wages keep going up yet everyone is struggling. Hell I make a good salary and I’m struggling to scrape by. I was better off in 2019 making a fraction of what I’m making now. Wtf is happening?

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        COVID and the result of 4 years of tax cuts for billionaires/corporations catching up to us. It’s probably going to continue to get worse while Republicans block congress because, while under Biden they can’t really get much done in terms of fucking up wealth taxes even more, their presence also means that we can’t really fix it either and it’s going to stay broken with the rich getting taxed far too little.

        Progressive New Deal tax policies with very good wealth taxes (around 94% for the highest marginal tax rate) are what made the American economy boom during and after WW2, and conservatives took that away from us by cutting their tax rate by over half (Reagan especially fucked it up and made it as low as 30%) and shifting the tax burden to the poor. Now we have a situation where the ultra-rich pay less taxes than the working class and our society is collapsing due to it.

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    Except they were already charging more than enough before the minimum wage increase. People should stop blaming the employees and start looking at the business owners.

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      Exactly, if the quartely profits are there then the company has no excuse. Actually they do but it’s just greed.

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      Someone needs to compare the profits a company made in the year before and the year after the change.

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    If the restaurant can’t afford to stay in business because it’s paying enough for its workers to live, then it doesn’t deserve to exist.

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      …and if a company can’t afford to pay their lowest paid workers a few dollars more when the highest paid CEOs are paid 500 to 1000 times more than them, then maybe the CEOs don’t deserve to be paid that much.

      Maybe there’s a wealth gap in society that doesn’t deserve to exist, and that’s the real problem.

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      It’s funny cause lots (not all) of the small business owners complaining wouldn’t have a problem if they worked their own business instead of just hiring someone to do it for them and getting paid a ton to just own it.

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        My boss has worked one shift in 23 years. One.

        He somehow knows exactly what we’re dealing with.

        He hasn’t had to grocery shop for himself since 1989. He still somehow knows exactly what we’re dealing with.

        “When I worked in the mines in the late 70s I made less than you make and I bought two corvettes and a boat! Y’all blow your money!”

        No, you’re out of touch.

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        Good, then the market will be freed for an other company to take its place, which can pay its workers a decent wage, so they can rehire all those workers whom lost their job.

        A business doesn’t have the right to exist, only the privilege.

        And that privilege expires if it doesn’t add anything positive to society.

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    25% raise cost… 1-2.5% price increase? I’ll stand behind fast food workers any day at that price to my bottom dollar.

    Still not buying in and out because of their ludicrous mask double standard, but if anyone brings it to me I’ll eat it happily!

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      Why do that when they can keep wages the way they are, claim at 10% increase in costs and pocket everything. Business is easy.

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        In California, and maybe Oregon, employees can wear masks if they feel it necessary, and they have to follow mask mandates established by the governing bodies.

        All other in and out restaurants (not located in those 2 states) employees are not allowed to wear a mask at any time for any reason.

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            The state hasn’t had any say in it, it’s the company (operated out of California I Believe) that’s telling the employees they can’t wear masks. I used to rely on in and out as a pick me up after a bad day (like today), now I’m eating local.

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      The “problem” is, they already were profitable and making money, they didn’t have to fuck over customers. The owners just can’t even comprehend the concept of “making less money”.

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        That is the problem, but End Wokeness is not claiming that. They are claiming that we end up paying for the raises so we shouldn’t do it which is fucken bullshit. What 4000 years of mamon worship does to a mf.

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          It’s wild, they’re like, “OMG PRICES WENT UP $0.10!” like any normal person wouldn’t happily pay an extra quarter so the employees maybe wouldn’t hate their job as much and could, you know, eat healthy food, pay for shelter, and have adequate clothing.

          This just makes me hate the C-suite that much more, narrow minded psychopaths.

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      I mean yeah… “End wokeness”

      End… The acknowledgement that there has been systemic racism that has affected a population of people that we might better treat our neighbors…?

      End… The consideration of people not like yourself and recognize that they face injustices and persecution that we might stop them from being persecuted…?

      Yeah… Anyone who wants to end those things and everything else that “woke” stands for is never going to exactly have anything intelligent thing to say.

      :(

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      Almost as if it’s a grifter account that exists to illicit reactionary responses, both for and against. I would hardly even call this a “take” since it isn’t even an outright opinion. Let me be clear though, I do not like this account either.

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    This is an extremely small price to pay for someone being able to live.

    I’ll happily spend an extra nickel for a shake if it means someone can house and clothe themselves, or a quarter for a burger for the same.

    I make decent money (not extravagant, but I’m not exactly struggling at minimum wage), and this is a pittance for what they are getting out of it.

    But conservatives, or more accurately, aggressively capitalist people, only see that their prices are going up. They’re looking at "how does this affect me " with no consideration of helping their fellow citizen. It only affects them by costing them more for a burger.

    Pathetic. Devoid of any empathy.

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      In-N-Out raised their prices post-pandemic without workers getting an increase in pay. The cause and effect here is not credible.

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    Here in Seattle ($20/hr minimum) an hour of minimum wage is enough to buy A Big Mac meal and still have $6 leftover. In BFE Georgia ($7.25 minimum), you would need to work over an hour. Going to say one is better than the other.

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    CA is a state that really tries to shake the scummy republicans out of its politics and sometimes they win. GGCA.

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    Now do Denmark lol.

    These price increases were either unrelated (there’s a ton of geopolitical reasons the prices of wheat and other food ingredients have risen over the last few years), were purely corporate greed, or perhaps most likely a PR move.

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    This is End Wokeness so I suppose that’s supposed to be a gotcha? Reminds me of when Fox and CNN were trying to bash Sanders in 2016 but they just kept making him look cooler.

    News drone: So what, will you subsidize the health insurance industry then?

    Sanders: WE’RE GONNA ELIMINATE THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY. EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS…

    News drone: Bernie Sanders hates jobs. Next up, should your cat be trained with a firearm? Stay tuned to find out.