• Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Why the fuck does my appliance need wifi? It’s not ordering refills for consumables when low at a great discount nor is it going to schedule it’s own maintenance as it passes lifetime milestones or detects errors.

    I don’t want my fucking washer/dryer to text me when the load is done and I definitely don’t want my fridge to alert me I’m low on milk or bread, or the door is open. That’s such a huge backdoor for anyone looking to maliciously gather data and peer into my life, definitely without my consent.

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      7 months ago

      If, just for fucking once, they could use fully open source software to send that information directly to my mobile phone instead of using black box software to send all my info their corporate overlords, we might talk.

      In principle these things aren’t directly a bad idea. The fact that these asshats inserted themselves in the process is.

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      7 months ago

      My fucking washer has NFC and I cant even figure out why I would ever need that, let alone WiFi?

      Features for features sake, I guess? Another bullet point on the features list.

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        7 months ago

        It’s not very useful. But, I can start a program from an app which is a lot easier than understanding all the little logos on the unit. Plus I have more flexibility to tweak it, like be faster or gentler or schedule it to cheaper electricity hours all much more easily and intuitively than in the panel.

        Also timer, remote start, and letting me know when it’s done are something I might use once in a blue moon.

        Can I live without it, hell yes, but is it a totally useless gimmick… Well 50/50.

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      7 months ago

      I have my washer and dryer on an isolated network. It’s actually useful to be able to tell if they’re done without walking to the other end of the house to check.

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          7 months ago

          Exactly my thought hahaha my house is normal size and I can hear that sucker beeping anywhere

          Now, all joking aside, what’s the big advanta of knowing exactly when the cycle finishes? I get that it may vary because of the new sensor driven cycles but still… Unless you are running a laundromat and every second of machine use counts, I can ballpark it just fine

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            7 months ago

            ADHD, OCD and other neuro atypicals often need reminders or an action item that needs to be cleared. The features can be used by an infinite set of one offs, starting a load remotely before driving home from work, sometimes you are just under a time crunch. The burden of responsibility here is product enshitification not making us fear features, not someone wanting to utilize a feature rich product.

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              7 months ago

              Thank for the reply… I do get that accessibility part for anyone with any disability…however, any device that requires manual interaction, benefits little from remote starting … why would you put in a load but start it 8 hours later?

              In any case, 100% in agreement that the fault lies with the vendors enshitification and not the product or feature … Same with the home assistant, AI, gene mapping (23&me stuff), etc

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            7 months ago

            I can hear that sucker beeping anywhere

            You can make them quieter or even silent these days with the “signal cycle” or similar setting, a legitimate thing I want to do but mine don’t tell me when they’re done so I leave them loud.

            what’s the big advanta of knowing exactly when the cycle finishes?

            Even when on my Adderall I forget I set it all the time and wind up with smelly wet clothes too often. Also would be nice to get an alert if my wife set it without telling me, then I can easily swap it out if I’m not doing anything and she is.

            I want a washer/dryer with these features now goddamnit

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        7 months ago

        Seems entirely unnecessary. My units have buzzers that go off when they complete a cycle. I also have a phone with a timer setting, I know a load of laundry will take approx 60min to accomplish per machine. I don’t see the need to spend my time and money to create a more complex system.

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          7 months ago

          My laundry machines are in the basement, and my current machines play a pleasant jingle when they’re done, instead of a loud buzzer. I can’t hear them. I wish there was a setting to go back to buzzer mode

          Of course they also have reliable timers so I usually set my watch timer when I start the machines. Done

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        7 months ago

        How freaking big is your house? I’m in a rather large 3500+ sqft across 3 levels and I really never struggle to hear if the laundry is running and it’s isolated in its own room on one corner of the house… behind a solid wood door too.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah, Im starting to think I need to set up a vlan for my iot devices, but its also a bit out of my league in terms of complicatedness.

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        7 months ago

        You know looking at a clock and realizing an hour passed and its done is free, and easy to accomplish with the features already built into your phone and most houses.

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          7 months ago

          I have a front loader that takes anything from 1.5 - 3 hours depending on water temperature, load size etc.

          It may tell me 2 hours when I start it, and still be going 2 hours 20 minutes later.

          The dryer next to it is even worse when it comes to guessing duration, so having a notification pop up next to me is helpful.