Cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/12956314

"I push back on doomism because I don’t think it’s justified by the science, and I think it potentially leads us down a path of inaction,” said Mann during a talk last Thursday at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

“And there are bad actors today who are fanning the flames of climate doomism because they understand that it takes those who are most likely to be on the front lines, advocating for change, and pushes them to the sidelines, which is where polluters and petrostates want them.”

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    8 months ago

    “Doomers” don’t think there is literally no way to stop it. They generally think that the people who can pull the lever will continue not to do so because they’ve resisted it for decades. It’s lack of faith in our collective will and dedication to action, not that there is no course of action that can stop it.

    I can’t blame them. I still advocate for change and work towards it, but they’re not the problem. It’s climate change deniers and politicians who refuse to do anything about it.

    Blame is being misdirected here as usual. Which contributes to why people are “doomers.”

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      8 months ago

      You can pulll the lever. That’s my point. There are more people who want to stop the climate catastrophe than not.

      We are many. They are few. Rise.

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          8 months ago

          just popping in because this was reported - I would suggest being supportive of others who are trying to accomplish the same kind of things you are rather than calling them “utterly delusional”

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            8 months ago

            As opposed to them calling the people who wants to do the same thing as them but feeling hopeless about our chances “nihilistic assholes”. I’m sure that’s a very supportive and productive thing to do.

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          This was already addressed by another admin. However, I want it to be perfectly clear that users are expected to be(e) nice when using Beehaw. Thus, you can have a week vacation to think about that.

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          ok I got a bike lane put in in my city and bike ridership is up 15%.

          I gave my mum a Palak Paneer recipe and now she eats it once a week

          My district saw a 10% swing in the last election and surprise elected a green candidate.

          I think your the delusional one if you think change isn’t possible. just a few years ago conservatives were hoarding incandescent bulbs.

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            Congratulations, these are wonderful achievements. A lot of us are doing what we can. Just because we haven’t done everything you have done doesn’t mean we aren’t trying.

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                7 months ago

                If y’all truly think that most “doomers” are literally sitting around waiting to die and that this article is required to “call them out” then you’re just tilting at windmills and not casting blame at the people who are the actual problem.

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            There is a world of difference between getting a bike lane installed and getting the world superpowers to collectively stop polluting.

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              More bike lanes -> more bikers -> more people voting for bike lanes. And then suddenly gm is marketing their fancy overpriced bike to you instead of their car.

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            Congratulations; the dent you’ve made is a rounding error. There are 100 companies which cause 71% of carbon emissions, and you aren’t changing how those companies operate without Molotov cocktails

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              Where do those 100 companies get their money from? That 15% increase in local bike riders is a 15% reduction of petroleum industry income - if we can get similar results elsewhere.

              From little things big things grow.

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          But people do that more now than they ever have, many individuals do take steps to help the environment. We don’t need all the masses to rise, just enough dedicated action from a portion can have massive impact.