• madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    It’s also a drop in the ocean from the pollution dumped out by farms.

    People need to stop obsessing about private planes and Tylor Swift bullshit distractions. If all private jets disappeared tomorrow nothing would change in the fight against climate change.

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      We absolutely need to keep obsessing over private planes. That’s the privilege of a handful of people with massive repercussions for all of us. It’s not a zero sum game we need to tackle farming, fossil fuels, plastic and food waste, etc. all at once.
      1% of emission here and there quickly adds up when you tally it all.

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        That’s the privilege of a handful of people with massive repercussions for all of us

        not really though, as many people in this thread have pointed out. People want to rage against the rich, I get it, but it’s not helpful to abuse climate change as a reason to do so when their money itself is more enough reason.

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          If they would use their money to solve it, they would have done it by now. Instead, they’re buying medias and broadcast right-wing propaganda. ecology without class struggle is gardening !

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        You’re basically investing your energy into picking weeds in your garden while your house burns down.

        Activism and change take effort and it needs to be used wisely.

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          And you’re basically fueling inaction. Everyone has a very good reason as to why we shouldn’t take action towards them and then start pointing fingers at their neighbours.

          Taking down polluting billionaires, with their mega yachts and their private jets would also topple a good chunk of polluting industries as well. They’re literally at their heads, if you take out the big dude at the top, the rest would definitely follow.

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            Just go shoot some rich people, you don’t need to make up reasons to do so. Like I said above. You’re angry and want to rationalize your anger when no-one ever asked you to.

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          Those flying private jets are the role models for many in society. They lead by example, and their example says there is no problem with emissions and convenience is much more important. That’s why this is important. You can do activism as much as you want but if the role models are doing the opposite that activism takes a lot more effort for the same result.

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            If we ban private jets, the rich will scream and cry and the dummies who see them as role models will learn absolutely nothing from it, they made up their minds anyway that being rich is the goal and anyone who criticizes or limits that lifestyle is a jealous “hater”. It’s like with Trump supporters, the shittier Trump gets, the more they love him - the more the rich flaunt their lifestyle, the more the dummies look up to them.

            It’s not that easy. I hate to say it, but mankind probably needs to go through a total wipeout in order to get rid of the American way of life and all the evil that comes with it, like greed and money as the god above all gods.

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              total wipeout in order to get rid of the American way of life

              Historically looking at other large powers, America and their way of life is set to destroy itself soon enough. Inequality grows and rot away the basis for the economy until the thing slowly collapses in on itself. And that’ll be the end of the American way if life.

              Unless those at the top actually change and be the role model they are supposed to be. If they do not, it’ll crash.

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      It’s not like commoners have much control over those things. If the people in charge can’t make effective change, either by legislation, by businesses practices, or by example, why would anyone else. People look up to Swift and when they see her flying a private jet, they’re less inclined to do their part. And yes, that is a sentiment I’ve heard. I can put solar panels out, I can switch over to biofuels, I can eliminate vacations, casual travel, and combine as much errant driving as possible, but one private flight by one billionaire throws all that out the window.

      Fuck there are people I’ve stopped talking to because they’re too old to figure out discord and I’m too young not to see the climate induced apocalypse.