(Sorry for bad english not my first language)

I am pretty sure most of us can agree on how bad Meta is and for some reason people are defending Meta.

I think many people is not realising how Threads and Federation with Threads is going to harm the development of Fediverse.

I dont think many people realize how Threads itself is going to harm fediverse. After twitters well known series dumb moves, many people saw this as an opportunity for fediverse to rise. But with Threads, essentially a 1 to 1 copy of twitter, just going to scoop all of that twitter refugees. Not just that but Threads is using fediverse as ready to consume content farm and eventually cause some users to migrate out of fediverse to Threads because “Well i can stay in touch with near circle easly while still being in fediverse” and after getting enough profits they will defederate themselves because there is not enought to gain from at that point. They will suck the life juice out of Fediverse.

Also as you know threads is tightly integrated with Instagram which made many Instagram users dove head first into Threads and this caused Instagram and Threads culture to be identical. And i think you can guess how bad Instagram culture is. Threads is just a breeding ground companies and influencers with high levels of toxicity and homophobia almost instantly. And we dont want this culture to infintirate Fediverse (Right?) More on the culture. Many threads users are going to destroy the thing we have. Fediverse will never get popular as FAANG Platforms whatever we do. Why we are trying to bring Hateful, Censorship oriented Instagram culture to fediverse. Why?

Also no, Threads is not going to contribute to Fediverse in users because why would a user will leave meta’s ecosystem and getting into this confusing things about fediverse while they can experience fediverse from Threads? Your average Threads user is not going to care about Fediverse.

We need to defederate from Threads to prevent them from profiting off fediverse. Defederating WILL DO SHIT unlike people says. This will make fediverse read-only to Threads which might emphasize some people to join fediverse to contrubite to it. Defederating essentially take the main point Meta wants with Fediverse. the engagement.

Edit 1: Sorry i was a bit aggresive in the post. Also i reinstalles threads to see how shittie this app is after a bit more maturizing and i already sae a couple scams

Edit 2: DELETED

Edit 3: Nope, Threads community does not fit overall fediverse community and i think we defederate.

  • ElectroVagrant@lemmy.worldEnglish
    01·
    1 year ago

    All defederating does is stop you within your instance being able to see posts from Threads

    Maybe I’ve misunderstood this, or maybe you’re thinking of this only in terms of Lemmy, but my understanding is that since Threads is a Twitter-like, it’s more likely to try to federate with Mastodon/Calckey/Misskey/Pleroma instances, and at least in the case of Mastodon, defederation is a more firm separation than on Lemmy. If a Mastodon instance defederates from Threads, it’s not just that the folks there will stop seeing posts from Threads, but that folks on Threads will stop seeing their posts as well.

    I may be wrong, but that’s been my understanding at least, hence why a number of Mastodon instances have agreed to defederate from Threads. This is wrong, I had misunderstood the process (thinking of it in terms of mutual defederation, which isn’t always the case!). See Ward2k’s post elaborating below.

    Edit:
    I was wrong, so today I learned how defederation works when it’s not mutual! Thanks Ward2k!

    • ward2k@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Nope not at all, this is where the misconception is.

      Defederating works kind of like a one way block, you stop your instance (Server A) from being able to see content from the other (Server B)

      Server A can no longer see any content from B

      B can still all the content from A, however users of B can no longer comment, upvote, downvote etc the only thing they can do is read the content of A

      This is the same for Lemmy, Kbin and Mastodon

      Defederating is for when you don’t want your users to see harmful content (bots, extreme ideologies, problematic posts etc), if you just don’t want to see the posts then fair enough that’s the way to do it

      If you care about the privacy aspect of Meta seeing your comments/posts or about not wanting Meta users to see your content then no, defederating won’t achieve anything

      Edit: I don’t like Meta, my point is that lots of users are calling for defederating without actually understanding anything about how it works