Hey, I’m autistic! I notice that if I don’t follow the group’s current propaganda fueled nonsense, I am seen as an outsider and hated for asking those hard-hitting questions. Eventually, they think I’m “inflexible” or “will not change my mind” and then say i am “supporting the other guy” or whatever. Like what is wrong with playing with a little of devils advocate to get the full picture. Sheesh
Agreed. Keep telling the truth. Truth is always precious, and remains true.
But keep humble too. We can be prone to banging on some point that we’re clearly right because no one gives any answer to our rational and reasonable questions/challenges… but there’s some subtlety (or not-so-subtlety) we just didn’t spot that means a lot to the other person and is why they fight what we think is obvious truth. And sometimes we’re just completely wrong!
When I’m arguing with others, what I really want - at least I like to think I really want - is for us all round to have the best chance at knowing the truth.
One of the best things I’ve learnt is to understand why a person holds their argument, both emotionally and logically/literally. If I understand, then I can affirm the parts we do agree on, the common foundations that help them see I’m not against them, and that give my perception of the truth/answer a chance of having meaning to them too.
It’s uphill work, and often clouded by the fact that deep down I don’t want to be wrong and that makes me ‘fight’ for myself without realising it myself. It also means sometimes I have to swallow my pride about something that’s “obviously right” and “all sensible people know,” and accept I don’t actually have the evidence to show fairly to the other person.
I meant half a /s, just on the irony of “all the studies say” in the context of propaganda.
But I absolutely agree it makes sense autistic people are less affected by a lot of propaganda. Partly because it just pushes the wrong buttons (and other propaganda would work better: a bit like cultural divides); and partly because we autistics (I’m at least a little) often fuss more over literal meaning and “there’s a problem with those two things you tried to implicitly connect”. Of course it can also mean we’re less affected by sensible people telling the truth in a way plain for cultural-normative neurotypicals.
No but all the studies I’ve read about it say that autistic people aren’t as affected by it.
At least main stream propaganda.
Hey, I’m autistic! I notice that if I don’t follow the group’s current propaganda fueled nonsense, I am seen as an outsider and hated for asking those hard-hitting questions. Eventually, they think I’m “inflexible” or “will not change my mind” and then say i am “supporting the other guy” or whatever. Like what is wrong with playing with a little of devils advocate to get the full picture. Sheesh
Haters gonna hate. Keep telling the truth man, these people need us even if they don’t like us.
Agreed. Keep telling the truth. Truth is always precious, and remains true.
But keep humble too. We can be prone to banging on some point that we’re clearly right because no one gives any answer to our rational and reasonable questions/challenges… but there’s some subtlety (or not-so-subtlety) we just didn’t spot that means a lot to the other person and is why they fight what we think is obvious truth. And sometimes we’re just completely wrong!
When I’m arguing with others, what I really want - at least I like to think I really want - is for us all round to have the best chance at knowing the truth.
One of the best things I’ve learnt is to understand why a person holds their argument, both emotionally and logically/literally. If I understand, then I can affirm the parts we do agree on, the common foundations that help them see I’m not against them, and that give my perception of the truth/answer a chance of having meaning to them too.
It’s uphill work, and often clouded by the fact that deep down I don’t want to be wrong and that makes me ‘fight’ for myself without realising it myself. It also means sometimes I have to swallow my pride about something that’s “obviously right” and “all sensible people know,” and accept I don’t actually have the evidence to show fairly to the other person.
But I find it’s worth it.
If all the studies say it, it must be right
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Durned science thinkin
That’s why I specified mainstream
I meant half a /s, just on the irony of “all the studies say” in the context of propaganda.
But I absolutely agree it makes sense autistic people are less affected by a lot of propaganda. Partly because it just pushes the wrong buttons (and other propaganda would work better: a bit like cultural divides); and partly because we autistics (I’m at least a little) often fuss more over literal meaning and “there’s a problem with those two things you tried to implicitly connect”. Of course it can also mean we’re less affected by sensible people telling the truth in a way plain for cultural-normative neurotypicals.
Can confirm
Elon Musk eat propaganda