• MxM111@kbin.social
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    2 months ago

    The right complains that the media is too left. The left complains that it is too right. Where is it?

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      It’s mainstream neolib Democrat left, which is mostly just authoritarian center. Except Fox. They’re authoritarian right.

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        There isn’t really a “center”, either someone is able to parse new understanding about the world and society and then integrate that understanding into their political goals (adjusting as ideas fail or succeed) or they cling to outdated beliefs.

        This is especially true of the media, telling “some lies” and misrepresenting “some facts” doesn’t make an outlet centrist, it just makes them anti-truth and anti-reality.

        The notion that politics is a spectrum is one of the most successful political framing jobs conservatives ever pulled on people.

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        Neoliberalism is all about reducing the power that the mechanisms controlled by the vote have over the power of money (i.e. less regulation, less oversight, less “interference in the Market”) - it’s an ideology that seeks to reduce the State - including the State controlled by voters in Democracy - leaving Money as the only Power, or in other words: Oligarchy.

        Both main parties in the US are hard right, it’s just that Democrats are pushing for Oligarchy - were Money has total liberty and those who don’t have most of the Money and the Assets it buys are constrained in their choices by those who have - whilst Republican are pushing for Fascism - were the State still has supremacy over Money but it’s not controlled by citizens via their elected representatives.

        There is no political “center” in the US, there are only two forms of hard-right that differ in how much freedom Money has, not in how much freedom citizens have.

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          Dude, political science is a whole-ass field of study! People have been on this shit for like a couple billion years now. lol

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            Yes and? What is “center” depends on local politics and also changes over time. All you can say is that Europe is to the left of US in many (but not all) things, dude.

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      On the right you have fascists and useful idiots. It’s all lies, rage, and prejudice. Somehow, not partaking in all that is supposed to be biased for some reason.

      Then there is the elitist neoliberal establishment running the media, politicians, and most of the corporations. Then, beneath those, there is a variety of different kinds of apolitical types and lefties that are differentiated mostly by how much they have bought into the system.

      There is almost zero mainstream media on either side that tells people anything that might lead them to try and get some power back.

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      Leftism is when you’re anti-war.

      Rightism is when you’re pro-war.

      We must find a middle ground. One in which we are in favor of the perfect amount of war.

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        Pacifism while noble, is not practical or even I will argue, moral stand. When you are attacked, you have right and obligation to defend.

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          There’s no shortage of militant anti-war activists. Particularly when you’re in a country that involuntarily conscripts, pacifism isn’t an option.

          When you are attacked, you have right and obligation to defend.

          No argument here. Arm those students. Arm the professors. The Black Panthers had the right idea.