Edit: This has been incorrectly downvoted. Please see the wiki definition of “nonpublic forum”:
"A nonpublic forum is not specially designated as open to public expression. For example, jails, public schools, and military bases are nonpublic forums (unless declared otherwise by the government). Such forums can be restricted based on the content (i.e., subject matter) of the speech, but not based on viewpoint. Thus, while the government could prohibit speeches related to abortion on a military base, it could not permit an anti-abortion speaker while denying an abortion rights speaker (or vice versa).
Regardless of the type of forum, any exclusion must be done on a viewpoint neutral basis. Exclusion based on the speaker’s viewpoint is unconstitutional"
Okay. I feel that this needs to be said because we’re having the same sort of kneejerk reaction that conservatives have when the law doesn’t side with them.
You are in a nonpublic forum… You do not have the right to trespass. If they feel that you are being a nuisance, then they 100% have the right to ask you to leave. This is not a violation of your 1st Amendment right.
Now…I 100% believe that protests should be disruptive, and I totally support any one of these students that decide to protest, you’re doing what you think is right, that’s awesome. But we also need to be realistic here, a company or private entity asking you to leave the property doesn’t mean or show proof that we live in a Capitalist Oligarchy. Not saying that we don’t…but we should atleast get our facts straight.
Clarification: I’ve updated private property to correctly state nonpublic forum.
No, it’s government property, and it’s technically considered a nonpublic forum. You’d have to follow the same rules as you would at any other private property and you must have legitimate business there, much like you would an airport (which is also government run and again, a nonpublic forum).
The fuck is “legitimate business?” You need a boarding pass and id to get in an airport, I can go sit on a bench and look at squirrels on campus all day and nobody will bug me.
I’m just trying to tell you that it’s not “public” in that you can just access it whenever you want. Students and friends/family of that student are attending an event that they’ve been invited or allowed entry to. They are allowed to be there until the school, government, or whatever governing entity says so.
You’re campus is called a public forum, in that it’s accessible to the public and is an allowed gathering area for non-students as well as students. This is different than a nonpublic forum.
You can’t just walk into the stadium to go use the field, or hang out in the stands, or do whatever you want. You need permission or have some sort of authorization allowing you to be there, like an ID, a pass, a ticket, or whatever the government entity that is running that stadium is permitting otherwise it’s considered trespassing (much like private property), and they can ask you to leave at any point.
Edit: This has been incorrectly downvoted. Please see the wiki definition of “nonpublic forum”:
"A nonpublic forum is not specially designated as open to public expression. For example, jails, public schools, and military bases are nonpublic forums (unless declared otherwise by the government). Such forums can be restricted based on the content (i.e., subject matter) of the speech, but not based on viewpoint. Thus, while the government could prohibit speeches related to abortion on a military base, it could not permit an anti-abortion speaker while denying an abortion rights speaker (or vice versa).
Regardless of the type of forum, any exclusion must be done on a viewpoint neutral basis. Exclusion based on the speaker’s viewpoint is unconstitutional"
Okay. I feel that this needs to be said because we’re having the same sort of kneejerk reaction that conservatives have when the law doesn’t side with them.
You are in a nonpublic forum… You do not have the right to trespass. If they feel that you are being a nuisance, then they 100% have the right to ask you to leave. This is not a violation of your 1st Amendment right.
Now…I 100% believe that protests should be disruptive, and I totally support any one of these students that decide to protest, you’re doing what you think is right, that’s awesome. But we also need to be realistic here, a company or private entity asking you to leave the property doesn’t mean or show proof that we live in a Capitalist Oligarchy. Not saying that we don’t…but we should atleast get our facts straight.
Clarification: I’ve updated private property to correctly state nonpublic forum.
It’s a state school, it’s public property.
Also, if this keeps happening they’ll just sell all the public property
And give up that sweet sweet government money?
No, it’s government property, and it’s technically considered a nonpublic forum. You’d have to follow the same rules as you would at any other private property and you must have legitimate business there, much like you would an airport (which is also government run and again, a nonpublic forum).
The fuck is “legitimate business?” You need a boarding pass and id to get in an airport, I can go sit on a bench and look at squirrels on campus all day and nobody will bug me.
I’m just trying to tell you that it’s not “public” in that you can just access it whenever you want. Students and friends/family of that student are attending an event that they’ve been invited or allowed entry to. They are allowed to be there until the school, government, or whatever governing entity says so.
You’re campus is called a public forum, in that it’s accessible to the public and is an allowed gathering area for non-students as well as students. This is different than a nonpublic forum.
You can’t just walk into the stadium to go use the field, or hang out in the stands, or do whatever you want. You need permission or have some sort of authorization allowing you to be there, like an ID, a pass, a ticket, or whatever the government entity that is running that stadium is permitting otherwise it’s considered trespassing (much like private property), and they can ask you to leave at any point.
Any articles showing them in the stadium? All I can find is that they were “nearby,” meaning not inside.
Nevermind I found the disconnect. This was in the stadium during commencement to preempt any protests during it.
Okay. [Bullshit]
Look up nonpublic forums.