• severien@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m curious where did they get those numbers. Producing a limited number of chips is one thing, scaling production to tens of millions is another. Especially regarding the lithography machines which China bought before the sanctions from ASML, but can’t buy anymore.

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      Not much is known about chinas new 7nm process as thereisnt much documentation on it. Given that mobile chips are smaller. Even if yields are bad, youd still be able to get some chips made due to its small size.

      Last i recall, china was on 14/12nm but the 7nm breakthrough is fairly recent.

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        Impossible in the timeframe. There’s a reason why ASML is the only producer on this level.

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        From what I’ve read, they’ve partnered up with a manufacturer which may have acquired the necessary ASML tech before the ban. If that’s the case, they’ll need years to decades to get even in terms of technology; the development stops at 7nm and there’s no way to go down to 5nm.

        There’s a reason the entire world is dependent on chip manufacturing machines from one single manufacturer. Making chips at single digit nanometer scale is incredibly difficult and requires extremely advanced manufacturing technology.

        I don’t think China has been able to clone the EUV process yet. If they could, the Chinese government would be announcing so in every news paper around the world.

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    1 year ago

    Good. These sanctions against Huawei are BS. We all know Trump put them in place to protect Apple. Huawei was making incredible products and their cameras are better then iPhone by alot. Huawei was 2nd in the world and about to take 1st. That’s why Trump did this stupid ban.

    I’m glad Huawei will make their own chips. I just wish they could also get Google apps to work on there as well. Would be a great option for Android customers. Even though they tend to be pricey

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      1 year ago

      Huawei was definitely the best android manufacturer. Way ahead of Samsung, Google and other Chinese manufacturers.

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        how were they ahead of Samsung and other manufacturers exactly? genuinely curious.

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          Better Hardware and software( Samsung software was very bad before OneUI), great partnerships with Google lead to creation of some of the best android phones with the nexus series. And great Cameras systems at that time.