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I’m amazed at how many people can not imagine a world past capitalism. How stubborn must you be to push eugenics before revolution
I’m fine with the revolution, but it does very little when dealing with preventing the collapse from the overshoot of the carrying capacity of the global ecosystem. Read the fine paper, your attitude is in line with what it describes.
What if i told you the “carrying capacity of the global ecosystem” is very much not set in stone and it’s a very deliberate tactic to make it seem like it is?
I would agree. With Capitalist Realism as well. I’ve argued both many times.
Than maybe the problem is not too many people being alive.
Right.
So maybe sharing stuff that implies that it’s in any way a problem is indeed eugenics and is right to be deleted.
That’s not what the paper says is the problem.
If you cant come to grips with the scientific fact that ecological destruction has a direct connection to population then you should start a special sub for CollapseMagicalThinking.
Life requires resources these resources have flow rates, for example the amount of human appropriated calories that are possible to grow in one m2 is limited by things like sunlight temperature nutrient inputs etc… This is scientifically measurable and all creatures including humans are constrained by such things. We are also constrained by waste production and the rate of waste detoxification by ecosystem services.
Of course “affluence” as measured by consumption is also part of the equation P*A=environmental impact. Humans appropriation of global bioproductivity is already pushed the other life on earth into mass extinction. Its already reduced many areas to lower bioproductivity levels. Over 40% of our current population number is dependent on advanced synthetic fertilizers that are highly dependent on fossil fuels and other depleting resources.
High population doesn’t imply killing people. It can mean voluntary birth control usage and lowering the ability of the global 1% to engage in excessive consumption rather than killing the poor that use a tiny fraction of the resources per capita.