• Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I’m definitely not an expert on this. But let’s take foss as an example. I find it to be an amazing bottom up community that contributes to itself freely. I can’t imagine how a top down system would flourish if a small group of people decided what was good for the foss community and deleted what they thought wasn’t. Is there is a distinction? Is there different versions of communism I should check out?

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      There’s hypothetically a bunch of different version of communism for everyone. The thing is, Marx described the problems with capitalism, and some vague sense of what socialism could be, some guidelines of what it should aim for, then kind of left the details up to each individual society to get there how they think is best based on their individual material conditions. He gave his own guesses, but didn’t think he could predict that part fully, it would be up to the people of the future to figure it out and build on. A third world country, rural serf based near fuedal society, like Russia, would have completely different needs from some post-industrial country, like if Germany turned communist, for example. If the world’s sole superpower, the US, turned communist, it would probably be a lot different than communist countries that had to transition under siege neighboring imperialism, like Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam.

      This is just to answer your last question. Don’t think this really addresses your other questions, but just wanted to explain that part, as I’ve had it explained to me before. But I generally agree with you. There should still be some form of democracy but it might look different than what we are used to here in the US or liberal west.

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      Its called worker lead, classless society.

      foss has a legally binding licence to support itself, this licence can be seen as a vanguard as it steers and protects the software, without the licence people would be sure to steal and monetise others works. But let’s say Foss became the defacto, everyone releases free fully open and no anti feature software, we could loss the vanguard and naturally a classless system would be present.

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        20 days ago

        Could a non-human vanguard be possible for a broader scope of governance? I don’t trust humanity all that much when it come to dictation.

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          No, that is just another class of ownership. Whoever maintains the AI would be the ruling class. Or if we’re talking AGI, there’s little reason humanity should trust what humans build over what humans do.

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          20 days ago

          AI could do it but this is fantasy, current ai would have everyone eating glue pizza lol.

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              19 days ago

              It already was, compare project cybersyn to the Walmarts and amazons we have now.

              Software is not a person and will serve the people in control of it.

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              19 days ago

              Sorry, but I don’t trust humanity. How do I know this isn’t just some ploy to further enslave workers?