people have been demonizing it for most of the AD years i think but it’s quite pleasant really. are there any proven negative effects?

  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    43·
    21 days ago

    If your problem is specifically me using the word porn when you’re talking about masturbation more generally, with or without porn, does it help to add the context that “porn addiction” is used interchangeably by these groups with “masturbation addiction”? I’m not really sure where this is breaking down.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      24·
      21 days ago

      I’m not really sure where this is breaking down.

      Phrases like “couple this with” from this sentence from my first comment are how I’m breaking it down. The meaning of this is “in addition to” not “these are equals.” I’m sorry you’ve not managed to read the context words I added specifically for this purpose.

      Couple this with how incredibly unhealthy the social relationships portrayed in most pornography are, and you’re gearing up for a lot of young men addicted to wanking and having unrealistic expectations of sex.

      From my second comment:

      The porn is rather a social knock-on effect because people often seek out porn to make the pathway to dopamine release easier.

      Because it’s true that people use shortcuts to cumming, like porn.

      I reiterate, reading comprehension is dead.

      • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        43·
        21 days ago

        Dude, I’ve tried engaging with you politely on this and elaborating on each thing I was saying. If you’re married to the idea of masturbation addiction being real despite the scientific evidence for it being incredibly weak and the “treatment” being bankrolled by religious groups, knock yourself out.

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          64·
          21 days ago

          Ima be real with you.

          Arguing all masturbation is inherently good isn’t any better or morally superior than arguing all masturbation is inherently bad. Extremism is extremism and literally all I was talking about was moderation. If you can’t handle someone arguing moderation, it sounds like maybe you really do have a problem.

          • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            33·
            21 days ago

            Lmao, I’m at a stage of my life and on the types of medications that would make wanting to masturbate a lot a welcome change.

            Masturbation (in private obviously) is a neutral act. Anyone trying to characterize it as inherently good or bad is suspect. Anyone trying to sell you a cure for something mainstream society tells you is shameful, doubly so.

            • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              23·
              21 days ago

              Anyone trying to sell you a cure for something mainstream society tells you is shameful, doubly so.

              Trumpers really took this one and ran with it during COVID with not masking and spitting in people’s faces.

              They literally want to hang the people who tried to sell them a cure for something mainstream society told them was shameful, a disease they decided was a “librul hoax.”

              …because guess the fuck what? They were actually, genuinely, acting shamefully. Too bad they had no shame.

              I don’t think this as strong of an argument than you think it is. Sometimes mainstream society can be right about an act being shameful.