• Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    5 months ago

    Machiavellian

    Not sure if Biden will really do this or just a way to get Netanyahu to face reality and come to negotiating table in good faith. That requires Hamas to also negotiate in good faith.

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      Seems like going along with this would be a win for Hamas. It legitimizes them because they’re negotiating directly with a superpower. And, it makes Israel look more like the unreasonable one who isn’t acting in good faith.

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        Putting aside the fact that the US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists, the Big Question is what do we have to offer Hamas and how could we supply whatever it is without being accused of aiding terrorists? So, this is more than likely a political ploy.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    But, the officials said, Hamas could have an incentive to cut a unilateral deal with the U.S. because doing so would likely further strain relations between the U.S. and Israel and put additional domestic political pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    One of the former officials said the internal discussions have also taken place in the context of whether the possibility of the U.S. cutting a unilateral deal with Hamas might pressure Netanyahu to agree to a version of the current cease-fire proposal.

    On Monday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to travel to the region to discuss the latest attempts to secure a ceasefire deal.

    Rescuing the Israeli hostages has only strengthened Netanyahu’s determination to continue pursuing military operations in Gaza, rather than committing to a halt in the fighting, the senior administration official said.

    It’s unclear if there are prisoners in U.S. custody whose release Hamas would want to secure and who the Biden administration would deem acceptable to free based on their criminal convictions crimes.

    Last week, CIA Director Bill Burns and White House Middle East coordinator Brett McGurk both traveled to the region to continue talks on the proposal.


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    How could this even work?

    Hamas has been saying for 8 months they want a permanent peace deal to release hostages…

    Israel keeps saying they won’t stop till all of Hamas is “exterminated” but that Hamas needs to release all the hostages in return for a pause in the genocide.

    So like, unless Biden is offering something huge, like cutting off military aid to Israel and actually trying to provide aid to the victims of the genocide if not outright military protection…

    Then all this is for is so Biden supporters can point and say Biden is doing everything he can. Which is just factually untrue.

    I don’t know why Biden’s team thinks anyone will fall for this, even the ones saying it’s a big deal likely don’t believe it. It’s that moderate Tinkerbell logic where they think if enough believe, it becomes true.

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      You again… you’re exactly the type of person that is the reason why every European on this site is also confused at the rise of the far-right in their countries. Go out and talk to someone in a rural area. Touch grass. You’ll find that plenty of people would love Biden if he brought home “our people” and bombed Palestinians again. We on here all want an end to this, but we all on Lemmy/Fedi aren’t the sum of a country (clearly).

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          No, but that’s not the point. He’s trying to capitalize on the people that are “center” or “independent.” They have a different view of what they want. They’re the kinds of voters that are largely union, rural, live in swing areas, are likely to shift from party line votes and often their view of Israel is one that is more pro Israel. Maybe not as much “anti Palestinian” as one might think, but a viewpoint that’s very narrow sighted compared to a voter who might be more well informed. This election is a game of the middle ground, just like the last election.

          Biden doesn’t need to be popular in rural areas as much, he needs to prevent people from voting en masse for Trump in those areas. Especially in states that aren’t winner take all.

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        Touch grass.

        One of these days I’ll stop being surprised the only “Biden supporters” all sound exactly like trump supporters…

        It won’t be today, but some day.