• TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    What is the difference? In both cases one side is giving missiles for the explicit purpose of striking the rivals cities.

    One wouldn’t have happened if you had not taken your initial action? Are we debating the moral merit of defending an attack vs making an attack?

    WW3 is a real threat. Imagine if Russian responds by blowing up the trains the missiles are on in Poland?

    I would say that Russia probably should have thought about that before annexing their neighbors lands? Does Russia have no onus to limit their actions for the sake of peace?

    relying on the restraint of gangster led Russia to avoid nuclear war here ffs.

    And they rely on that perception to do whatever they want. Putin is not deranged, he doesn’t want to die in nuclear hell fire either. He just made a classic blunder, and got his hand caught in the cookie jar.

    • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      Are we debating the moral merit

      No, you’re bringing morality into this when it doesn’t belong. You’re confusing your feelings of moral justification for strategic justification.

      Whether or not there’s a substantial moral difference between invading a neighboring country and invading one on the other side of the planet is irrelevant in this scenario. If a geopolitical rival provides that invaded country with the means to launch missile strikes into your territory, the response will be the same.

      Your tendency to base major decisions on feelings of moral outrage or self righteousness are not how war planning is or should be done. It reeks of the condescending assumption that it is the job of America to be world police, and punish the wrongdoers.

      He just made a classic blunder, and got his hand caught in the cookie jar.

      I’m sorry to have to break it to you, but it doesn’t matter one iota whether or not Officer America thinks Putin has been caught being naughty. Your desire to punish him will always have to be weighed against the possibility of nuclear Armageddon.

      I felt like that had to be said, because I think you psychos are still likely to think it’s worth it.