some people have severe learning disabilities and may not be able to learn to paint. Some people lack the ability to move any part of their body and can’t paint in a way that I would be equipped to teach them.
There is nothing stopping those people from painting other than your ableism and whatever hurdles you put in their way
and using
Some people are comatose or otherwise completely non-responsive and obviously can’t paint.
makes it clear that you’re not arguing in good faith.
Expecting someone to provide you with instructions for some exaugurated made up (and clearly facetious)
scenario you created in your head (aka a strawman) because you’re too lazy to even consider thinking for yourself and making the tiniest effort to include all the people you might be talking to if the relevant situation ever came up is pretty pathetic.
Expecting someone to provide you with instructions for some exaugurated made up (and clearly facetious)
scenario you created in your head (aka a strawman)
That wasn’t a strawman. Fartmaster used the same language as the original tweet and merely extrapolated it to a real-world application. And a very reasonable one, at that.
Your comment isn’t showing up on lemmy.world so I’ll respond to it here.
Do you honestly believe that it’s ableism for a random person trying to teach kids a creative outlet of painting to not be equipped to teach someone with a severe learning disability or someone who is completely paralyzed? They could have the best intentions in the world and still not have the experience, equipment, and additional resources to take something like that on. There are entire industries and academic programs specializing in both to teach those skills.
How is considering someone who is comatose or non-responsive not arguing in good faith? Because you’d rather pretend they don’t exist for the sake of your argument?
How is taking a hypothetical situation and trying to apply it to a real-world situation a strawman? I’m not misconstruing or misrepresenting the original position in any way, am I? I’m just thinking about it beyond a surface-level complaint to find an actual solution.
There is nothing stopping those people from painting other than your ableism and whatever hurdles you put in their way
and using
makes it clear that you’re not arguing in good faith.
Expecting someone to provide you with instructions for some exaugurated made up (and clearly facetious)
scenario you created in your head (aka a strawman) because you’re too lazy to even consider thinking for yourself and making the tiniest effort to include all the people you might be talking to if the relevant situation ever came up is pretty pathetic.
That wasn’t a strawman. Fartmaster used the same language as the original tweet and merely extrapolated it to a real-world application. And a very reasonable one, at that.
Your comment isn’t showing up on lemmy.world so I’ll respond to it here.
Do you honestly believe that it’s ableism for a random person trying to teach kids a creative outlet of painting to not be equipped to teach someone with a severe learning disability or someone who is completely paralyzed? They could have the best intentions in the world and still not have the experience, equipment, and additional resources to take something like that on. There are entire industries and academic programs specializing in both to teach those skills.
How is considering someone who is comatose or non-responsive not arguing in good faith? Because you’d rather pretend they don’t exist for the sake of your argument?
How is taking a hypothetical situation and trying to apply it to a real-world situation a strawman? I’m not misconstruing or misrepresenting the original position in any way, am I? I’m just thinking about it beyond a surface-level complaint to find an actual solution.