• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      Welcome to democracy - where the ignorance and malice of the politically uneducated majority force the politically educated minority to make shitty and immoral choices.

      It’s better than the alternative, of course - the ignorance and malice of a politically uneducated minority forcing everyone else to support one shitty and immoral choice.

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        This isn’t democracy. If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide. What we actually have is a representative system where we’re told that we vote in politicians who represent us, but in reality they represent the plutocracy and the plutocracy wants genocide.

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            Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

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                    You didn’t look at your own poll last time and you didn’t look at it this time either. Here, let me point it out again, this time with a screenshot:

                    Oh, would you look at that, only right-wing conservatives and republicans edge out in favor of giving aid to israel’s campaign of genocide. For some reason you think we should be catering to republican fascists. Are you sure you’re not the one who is the fascist? You love using projection like they do and you insist that “most Americans” support fascist policies.

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                    In what universe isn’t disapproval of Israels actions opposition to genocide?? That’s literally what they’re doing that people disapprove of!

                    At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                    Some people still incorrectly think that Israel isn’t inherently a genocidal apartheid state, so they want to support them in general, but want the genocide to stop.

      • bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        so what are you saying? the majority of US voters forced the government to support the Gaza genocide?

        and if not? are we already living the alternative?

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          Surprisingly, yes. as AIPAC said, they got a 100% ousting of all candidates who were “anti-Israel”(translated to normal speak: against slaughtering Palestinians because Israel embraced the 14 words), this is a very clear democratic mandate to support the slaughter of innocents, so the land can be used for more settlements.

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            That just proves how easily swayed the public is by money. Which makes sense, with money, you can drown out opposing arguments and squash the truth. It’s not really a democracy as long as the Citizens United ruling stands. It’s a plutocracy.

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              AIPAC is a very public Zionist lobbying group working on behalf of the most radical elements of the Israeli state. they were founded to help smooth out Israeli US relations after the Qibya massacre in 1953.

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      Are you voting for time travel so you can travel back to the 1940s, become supreme leader of Israel, and change the 70 years of Israeli domestic policy that has led us to this point?

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        jaded and entitled children that think our every want and need will be addressed

        Yes, how spoilt we are to not want checks notes genocide.

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        and so what if we watch a few animal (yes, members of the Israeli ruling coalition have called the Palestinians animals) die in Gaza? it’s good for our geostrategic interests in the region.

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            about how we’re just going to sit, watch and fund a genocide? or the thing about multiple Lukid cabinet members labelling Palestinians as “human animals”? I mean, there wasn’t more than those two points, so not much to get confused about…

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              Dude. Genocide is happening whether you vote or not. Why not save the LGBTQ+, stop Arabist from abusing America, and help protect women’s rights instead of being smug and pouting that you’re not getting everything the way you want.

              The simple fact that by now it’s fucking impossible to not know rust Donald “finish the job” Trump is going to help decimate Palestine.

              And the fact that YOU FUCKING KNOW THIS-

              Shows exactly what you’re up to. And I’ll call what shit out every time I see it until Evertone see what you’re up to.

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                Don’t use LGBTQ+ and women’s rights as a shield for genocide. Also, what is “stop Arabist from abusing America” supposed to mean?

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                  I’ll use whatever is factually true to illustrate what’s going to happen if Trump is elected. Especially against bots that clearly don’t give a fuck.

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                    You’re using whataboutism to change the subject from genocide. You really shouldn’t accuse others of being bots when you post like one.

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                    what, the other guy can do it by calling for us to kill “Arabist” but once the genocide isn’t about some people you can’t just ignore it’s bad? and for the same reason, mind you.

                    so what exactly is the difference in these positions other than the ethnicity you are fine with geocoding?

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                  What’s hilarious is how you continue the ruse that you actually give a shit about genocide while purposefully not doing the thing that is going to keep it from becoming much worse

                  No on believes you bud. So just stop.

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                    how exactly could it get worse? we seem more than happy to have our bombs hit refugee camps.

                    this might shock you, but pointing out that neither the democrats not the republicans give a shit isn’t some sinister plot to undermine Biden and get Trump elected, and it’s not like there aren’t enough reasons to go out and vote against Trump. but with regard to the genocide? they are both about the same.