• DarkThoughts@fedia.io
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    5 months ago

    I don’t understand how shit like this does not already warrant to enact article 5. Russia sends literal sabotage units to us to physically destroy shit, as well as assassination squads to murder people. Those are and should be seen as direct attacks to our countries.

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      5 months ago

      What would be the benefit of open war against Russia, especially if NATO were to start it? I see absolutely nothing.

      There’s a lot of room for additional sanctions against Russia too. The EU is still importing fossil gas and nuclear fuel, for example. Countries like Cyprus and the UK can probably still freeze additional Russian funds. […]

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          5 months ago

          Russia emits misinformation, Russia attacks through Interwebs, Russia employs espionage, Russia sabotages. But Russia has not performed a full-scale military attack on any NATO country. And unless they do, in the eye of any onlooker, NATO would be the one to start the altercation.

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              5 months ago

              Ukraine is not a NATO country, for better or worse. (It’s anyone’s guess whether Russia would have attacked Ukraine if they were a NATO member.)

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        5 months ago

        The best sanctions we could impose is a complete shutdown of all of Russia’s Internet access. You’d see massive reduction in disinformation across the web.

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      5 months ago

      because politics, that would anger china and we’ve made the absolutely galaxybrained decision to make ourselves basically entirely reliant upon that one country to survive :)))

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      5 months ago

      I like not having to survive a nuclear apocalypse, thank you.