I got such an aneurysm from reading the next reply (see link) I decided I had to let you all read this brainrot:

Also yes, .world is so low hanging fruit. But this one is slightly different.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/23635227/11814221

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    The issue here is that the “non authoritarian non state” is communism, and communism for all intents and purposes is just a utopia. It was Marx and Engels vision of a perfect society. It’s nothing more than a fantasy. Utopias don’t exist and never will. When these types of violent revolutions happen and the dictatorship of the proletariat is established, it’s going to remain there indefinitely because communism is an unachievable goal. The theory itself is flawed.

    You can stop reading there. Whatever accidentally correct points are made afterwards are just that, accidents. Their(the world poster) initial assumption is wrong. They assume that if communism is not achieved within a few years it was failure, despite Marx and Engels already stating that the transition towards to will take many generations. Communism is also not exactly something to “achieve”. Once the transition into the communist phase of development is completed, that phase too will change and develop. Precisely not a Utopia. Utopia is per definition perfect, ergo unchanging.

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      Not to mention that Lenin greatly expanded on these points anyway in State and Revolution in a way that proves Marx and Engels correct anyway, though I do wonder if the person you’re referring to has managed to read and purposely misunderstand that, too.