Equality is everyone being treated the same way regardless of differences.
Generally, equality is just about equality of freedom or “power to –”. If someone needs support to achieve their goals (as long as this doesn’t involve “power over” others / oppression) then of course it is important that there be societal structures/networks in place to help them, or at least “meta-structures” that can facilitate the organisation of such supporting networks.
Of course, “freedom” is a poorly defined word in itself, but imo the “everyone treated the exact same” (or worse, “everyone should be the same”) interpretations are not in the spirit of “freedom” and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were constructed in bad faith (not to promote “equity” but to discredit “equality”).
But ultimately it’s just semantics, and if you like calling it equity that’s cool, it’s just good to keep in mind that people who still use “equality” can easily be referring to the exact same thing.
Yes they can be referring to the same thing, but the “E” in “DEI” stands for “equity”, not “equality”. I made no value judgments on either term, I just explained the difference.
Yep. There’s a whole propaganda industry that rails against it (Prager U, Daily Wire, Red pillers, etc), and right-wing states are banning Universities from engaging in it, and banning investment of state funds in companies that take DEI into account (even though it’s pretty much just corporate lip-service).
Bill Ackmann (a 9 bn dollar heavy reptiloid billionaire) posted a lengthy rant against it on that birdsite and our lord and saviour Elmo concurred and proclaimed that it’s racist, immoral and illegal although similar programs were already in place since 1964 in the USA.
MAGAs regularly claim that it’s the fault of DEI when something goes south, e.g. Boeing machines failing, the CrowdStrike thingy, the bridge crash in Baltimore or Harris getting to the position she’s now in.
They use it to claim people that are not white, cishet, able-bodied, male, etc. are hired for their “diversity quota”, not their skills, while also appearing as reasonable to moderates. In my country (Hungary), similar backlashes were used to get minorities fired or not hired for some single minor mistake, and then hire a way worse non-minority. I was the victim of such thing, they asked my brother if I have “random violent meltdowns that end with destroyed equipment and bit co-workers”, when my brother said no, they decided to make me write on a table (which I suck at), where I was “too slow”, so they hired some more neurotypical guy, who had like almost zero programming knowledge, while I was described as “already having junior-level knowledge from open source projects”.
Non American here… Do I even want to know?
Diversity,
equalityequity, inclusion.Slight correction: it’s equity not equality.
Equality is everyone being treated the same way regardless of differences.
Equity is everyone being provided with the tools they need to succeed taking individual differences into account.
This is the goal, whether or not it succeeds depends on how it’s implemented.
Thanks for the correction. I’m also not American. Edited the post.
Generally, equality is just about equality of freedom or “power to –”. If someone needs support to achieve their goals (as long as this doesn’t involve “power over” others / oppression) then of course it is important that there be societal structures/networks in place to help them, or at least “meta-structures” that can facilitate the organisation of such supporting networks.
Of course, “freedom” is a poorly defined word in itself, but imo the “everyone treated the exact same” (or worse, “everyone should be the same”) interpretations are not in the spirit of “freedom” and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were constructed in bad faith (not to promote “equity” but to discredit “equality”).
But ultimately it’s just semantics, and if you like calling it equity that’s cool, it’s just good to keep in mind that people who still use “equality” can easily be referring to the exact same thing.
Yes they can be referring to the same thing, but the “E” in “DEI” stands for “equity”, not “equality”. I made no value judgments on either term, I just explained the difference.
Ohh, I see
That sounds like a compliment then
Is that really a fucking bad thing for these
Yep. There’s a whole propaganda industry that rails against it (Prager U, Daily Wire, Red pillers, etc), and right-wing states are banning Universities from engaging in it, and banning investment of state funds in companies that take DEI into account (even though it’s pretty much just corporate lip-service).
Bill Ackmann (a 9 bn dollar heavy reptiloid billionaire) posted a lengthy rant against it on that birdsite and our lord and saviour Elmo concurred and proclaimed that it’s racist, immoral and illegal although similar programs were already in place since 1964 in the USA.
MAGAs regularly claim that it’s the fault of DEI when something goes south, e.g. Boeing machines failing, the CrowdStrike thingy, the bridge crash in Baltimore or Harris getting to the position she’s now in.
The current far-right boogeyman.
They use it to claim people that are not white, cishet, able-bodied, male, etc. are hired for their “diversity quota”, not their skills, while also appearing as reasonable to moderates. In my country (Hungary), similar backlashes were used to get minorities fired or not hired for some single minor mistake, and then hire a way worse non-minority. I was the victim of such thing, they asked my brother if I have “random violent meltdowns that end with destroyed equipment and bit co-workers”, when my brother said no, they decided to make me write on a table (which I suck at), where I was “too slow”, so they hired some more neurotypical guy, who had like almost zero programming knowledge, while I was described as “already having junior-level knowledge from open source projects”.
Diversity hire
It doesn’t make sense in an elected position