Can I make a rule for my community that threads users will be banned?
If .world doesn’t defederate and threads users find their way into my community, I want to ban any that interact. Using anything meta related is a fundamental violation of the values I hold for using FOSS and the fediverse.
Would doing so violate the guidelines? I don’t see anything suggesting it would, but want to check.
Shouldn’t we educate Meta users about FOSS and the Fediverse?
I’m not even sure that Threads will actually open up to the Fediverse since it would allow people to interact with users/content on Threads without needing an Instagram/Meta account and without using one of Zuckerberg’s intrusive apps. People could actually ditch their Instagram/Meta accounts and switch to a Mastodon acount while still be able to interact with their existing/previous network.
There is actually a certain risk for Threads/Meta to loose users to Mastodon/The Fediverse. That’s why my initial guess is/was that Threads will either only federate in one direction, i. e. only allow their users to access federated content but not the other way, or that Zuckerberg believes that his apps are so much “better” (despite their privacy issues) that people prefer them over a FOSS alternative.
Now I see that Meta’s plan is much more clever. The mere threat of Threads connecting to the Fediverse is enough to begin the (E)xtinguishing, i. e. people (or are these Meta Bots?) are “threatening” to leave instances who do not proactively defederate from
threads.net
instead of trusting their admins to actually have a close eye on the situation.I do not trust Meta/Zuckerberg, because of its/his actions in the past. The very opposite is true for the admins of the fedivesre instances I have accounts on. So far they have acted very reasonable and worked their asses off to keep things running. That’s enough for me to trust them on actually keeping a close eye on the situation.
Thanks @[email protected] and all the other reasonable admins like @[email protected]! You are doing a great job!
I don’t really know that I have a duty to do that. And I’ve been beating the drum for a decade plus now. We see what little good it does. People just want the easiest UI/UX regardless of other considerations.
But I’m open to hearing your suggestion on how you teach someone on a corporate platform associated with Facebook how corporate owned internet is bad.
I could and should make my rule include a call to action to create an account on another instance. Is that sufficient education?I kind of agree with you here.
I can’t really articulate why I have a bad feeling about Threads but I just do. It’s owned by Meta which we know is just about as far on the opposite end of the spectrum as you can get from decentralization. They’re a HUGE corporation.
I just feel like I don’t want them anywhere near places like Lemmy because I feel like they’re going to try and ruin it, because they can’t profit off of decentralization.
Again, I’m not educated enough about this stuff to know HOW exactly they would do that, but I just know I like the idea of moving away from corporations and towards the fediverse, and I’m nervous about what will happen if corporations try to move into that space.
How would you know what a user uses? Defederating from Meta and any instances that federate with Meta should be enough.
That sounds like flat out discrimination. You don’t want to see people from Facebook? Well, I don’t want to see bigots.
Anti Facebook bigots? What race is that?
bigotry includes racism, it is not limited to racism
So you’re on board with defederating Threads, then?
No.