Buddy, you said ALL of its people. You realize there are pre-k kids with opinions that can write and fill in circles or press buttons? You want them voting?
Just trying to figure out what your end game here is. There’s something called experience and even brains are still developing into their 20s.
But they can’t vote and up to a certain point kids don’t really differentiate from parents so you are effectively giving adults more votes for popping out kids.
If you were stranded on an island with 28 5-6 year olds, an adult teacher, and yourself would you run it like a democracy and let the kids vote?
If I were on a deserted island I’d run it anarchically. I wouldn’t erect a state, democratic or not. But if we must have states, then we must also have democracy.
I feel like you are dodging the concept that children beyond a certain age are capable of limited self determination that scales up as they become more capable.
Why would the standard be “want to vote” versus are capable of voting. We don’t let kids drive cars at the age that they want to drive. The existing standard of 18 is better. I can very well see letting some 16 year olds vote based on having obtained some substantial responsibility within the community but it would be completely abused to give little upper class white kids yet another leg up so its safer to just make it either 16 or 18 for everyone.
Buddy, you said ALL of its people. You realize there are pre-k kids with opinions that can write and fill in circles or press buttons? You want them voting?
Just trying to figure out what your end game here is. There’s something called experience and even brains are still developing into their 20s.
pre-k kids should vote if they want to. It’s up to the individual.
But they can’t vote and up to a certain point kids don’t really differentiate from parents so you are effectively giving adults more votes for popping out kids.
If you were stranded on an island with 28 5-6 year olds, an adult teacher, and yourself would you run it like a democracy and let the kids vote?
If I were on a deserted island I’d run it anarchically. I wouldn’t erect a state, democratic or not. But if we must have states, then we must also have democracy.
So you would let the 5 year olds die because you wouldn’t just tell them what to do knowing they were 5
No. I don’t think you understand anarchism.
I feel like you are dodging the concept that children beyond a certain age are capable of limited self determination that scales up as they become more capable.
No I’m not. I’m saying when they get to the age where they want to vote, let them.
Why would the standard be “want to vote” versus are capable of voting. We don’t let kids drive cars at the age that they want to drive. The existing standard of 18 is better. I can very well see letting some 16 year olds vote based on having obtained some substantial responsibility within the community but it would be completely abused to give little upper class white kids yet another leg up so its safer to just make it either 16 or 18 for everyone.