I think “button nose” works better than “pug nose”. But what do I know Ich am nōn-ọ̄ther ain languagæ scholar.
Yeah, literal translation vs meaning translation. Looking up the definition, I think it might be close to what we would now call a snub nose.
Also, looking up nose shapes is a confusing and upsetting blend of weird personality tests, archaic race stuff and sad body image posts.
Idiomatic translation is the second type. It’s what you end up doing when you learn a second language well enough to stop translating word for word.
Ah, cool. :) I knew there was a proper word for it but I didn’t know what that word was.
Chaucer’s Major Poetry, edited by Albert C. Baugh, glosses “kamus” like this: “According to a medieval treatise on physiognomy, a pug nose suggests a sensual person.”
I guess nose shape personality tests have been with us for centuries.
Also, looking up nose shapes is a confusing and upsetting blend of weird personality tests, archaic race stuff and sad body image posts.
Confusing? How did that journey happen when you did it?
Not like, super confusing, but more of a “uhhh, I’m pretty sure the only thing my nose tells you is that all the men in my family have bigish noses, and nothing about my personality” to “uhhh, I’m pretty sure ‘arabid’ is an antiquated phrase and that sketch makes me think you have opinions I won’t care for” and “oh, honey, no, your nose is fine you don’t need plastic surgery at 15, at all, ever. It’s not ‘too late’ for you, random teen in a Google image search result”.
I also forgot to mention the “gah, stop showing me guns, I just want to know what snub nose means about a face”.I was kind of expecting “what glasses to wear to complement your nose type” sorts of things. I also don’t Google random parts of external human anatomy very often, so that may have just been on me for having the wrong expectations.
That really went more places than i thought it was going to. Daamn lol
Appreciate the heads up on googling parts of the body
i think historically pugs back then were much more reasonable looking dogs than pugs today, i’m pretty sure nobody today would consider having a pug’s nose a compliment
I hope you understand that by sharing this post, Lemmy has come to understand that you are in fact beautiful, when accounting for your Middle-English heritage.
Small upturned noses have long been considered attractive in women, just you are right, pugs haven’t always been that extremely deformed.
So Sir Mix A Lot stole his bars from Chaucer.
Nā, hit wæs tīd for þæt remix
Makes me wonder if eventually emojis will render current english unreadable to the speakers of the future
Sir Mixeth A Lotte
I was having a hard time believing this had to be a shit post, so looked it up.
Unless Harvard is in on the joke, this is amazingly true.
I knew i loved Chaucer for a reason
I notice that german has changed far less than english in the past few centuries. Because colonialism?
Edit: ok, english has changed more instead.
I like fair hair and I will not lie
You other poets can’t deny
That when a wench walks in
With eyes as grey as glass
And a well-developed arse
You get…… Recognised as one of the leading influences on English literature.
…bone, approach her chaperone
Egads! Her posterior’s grown
Shocked by the gown she’s wearing
I’m flustered and can’t stop staringMy lady, dance to this quartet
And take your portrait
My fellows tried to warn me
But with that bustle you’ve acquired makes (me so horny)
Ooh, lead dust smooth skin
You say you wanna get in my coach?
Well, stop short, stop short
Indeed, you’re not the average escortI’ve observe her dancing
Lucifer take romancing
She’s refined of course
The appearance of a purebred horse
I’m tired of broad printings
Declaring modest rumps are the thing
Take the average Moor man and ask him aye
She must possess wide thighs
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